Kelvin timeline Starfleet Academy YA novels

[Christopher]

What about the third note in background info here? https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Seek_a_Newer_World

Here's the original post:

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/novels-based-on-the-movie-cast.211729/page-2#post-8117482

As you can see there, I was responding to an entirely hypothetical conversation about whether the cancelled novels might someday see the light of day. The conversation about STID, a film that was released in 2013, obviously had nothing to do with the decision to cancel the novels, which occurred in January 2010, nine months before they even started writing the script for STID.

Was Beyond not novelized for the same reason you gave above?

I have no idea why Beyond was not novelized. I'm not the editor or an employee of the publisher, just a freelancer they occasionally hire. So I'm not privy to those decisions.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

The cancellation of the novels had nothing to do with their plots -- I'm amazed that myth persists after all the times we debunked it.

This is the internet. Debunked myths never completely die.

 

[F. King Daniel]

While I'm crazy happy we got the 2 Kevinverse novels we did, it was Greg's one about the elder Spock I was most curious about. I realise the concept was reworked into the Seven-meets-Kirk TOS book but the idea of a galactic scramble for Spock and his future knowledge is a hell of a concept.

 

[Lord Hierarch]

While I'm crazy happy we got the 2 Kevinverse novels we did, it was Greg's one about the elder Spock I was most curious about. I realise the concept was reworked into the Seven-meets-Kirk TOS book but the idea of a galactic scramble for Spock and his future knowledge is a hell of a concept.

Spock: Behold, God!

God: "Gimmie a starship."

Klingons: "Our god lives! RAMMING SPEED!"

*The Qo'nos Engine (of Khaless) activates*

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

the idea of a galactic scramble for Spock and his future knowledge is a hell of a concept.

I wonder who the various parties were. Some fellow Vulcans must've been involved, no doubt, given how melding against his will would've been one way to extract the information.

 

[Lord Hierarch]

I wonder who the various parties were. Some fellow Vulcans must've been involved, no doubt, given how melding against his will would've been one way to extract the information.

Klingons and Romulans are obvious. Nero caused chaos military wise. S31 or the other war-focused group. Khan was a wunderweapon they found without Spock,
What about other potential weapons could SF find with Spock’s knowledge?

Cardassians maybe. Be cool to see them early on. Ferengi? Sell his knowledge of future events to other parties?

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Ferengi? Sell his knowledge of future events to other parties?

One of Quark's ancestors has entered the chat...

 

[Victoria]

I enjoyed the Kelvin ST Academy books. To my mind they were better than the various 1990s YA novellas which seemed to be written for children rather than YA.

I was less impressed with the novel "More Beautiful Than Death" (haven't read the "Unsettling Stars" one) which also seemed like a YA book rather than something aimed at the adult market. It's possible that I'm being prejudiced by the new sizing of novels (which is a PITA when it comes to shelving) and the way print is spread out over a bigger page making the books feel shorter. More money for fewer words! Of course, I might be mistaken about that but that's the way it feels.

Also disappointed by the failure to publish a novelisation of "Beyond". I've got all the novelisations and now my collection feels incomplete.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

More focus was placed on the IDW comics, as graphic novels (are seen to) appeal more to the same kinds of people who watch movies with lots of action and explosions.

 

[Christopher]

More focus was placed on the IDW comics, as graphic novels (are seen to) appeal more to the same kinds of people who watch movies with lots of action and explosions.

That's completely untrue and needlessly insulting. The actual reasons that Bad Robot preferred working with comics over novels, as I understand them, include: a) IDW's offices are located in Los Angeles, making it easier for BR to coordinate with them; b) comics are shorter and take less time to read and approve than novels, making them more suitable for the kind of close, hands-on oversight BR preferred; and c) the comics medium is more similar to film/TV in its largely visual storytelling, and thus is often more inviting to film/TV creators.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Was Beyond not novelized for the same reason you gave above?

IIRC, Alan Dean Foster was not going to get access to a completed final draft screenplay early enough for him to commit to writing the third novelization.

 

[F. King Daniel]

IIRC, Alan Dean Foster was not going to get access to a completed final draft screenplay early enough for him to commit to writing the third novelization.

That's because Beyond was a major rush job after Bob Orci's Into Oblivion was cancelled and he vanished from the world. I recall Pegg doing press for the film and the interviews were like, "I shouldn't be here I should be writing"

There's got to be a story there. There was location scouting, concept art, preliminary casting... then it was gone. I'm pretty sure the only thing in common between the two scripts is the saucer separation (if the rumours I heard many years ago were true)