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Godzilla, Kong, Gamera & Co.: The Kaiju Mega-Thread

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Getting a better look at it via the poster, that is absolutely the same design from "Godzilla: The Ride". It's basically a modernized take on the Heisei/90's "Godzilla" design
 
Christopher said:
That does seem to be what the teaser text implies, but I think the title is primarily a play on "T minus one." It's set post-WWII, which makes it the first Godzilla movie to take place before the 1954 date of the original film.

Ooh, it's the same director as the CGI Lupin III movie. That was pretty impressive, as I recall.
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I was somewhat skeptical of setting this movie so early but this trailer intrigued me.

Grendelsbayne said:
Fingers crossed for a European release.

Regardless, that's not much to go on so far but what little it does show seems to absolutely blow away the visuals of every other Toho Godzilla movie, so if that's an accurate representation of what this is going to look like I'm impressed.

Between that and the concept being really interesting, too, I'm suddenly hugely hyped for this. If it does actually get released here, it may be the firist time I've ever seen a Toho movie in theaters.
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I hope Europe gets a release. I plan to see this December 1st.

Speaking thereof, anyone know if Godzilla movies play in Israel?
 
MikHutch said:
I was somewhat skeptical of setting this movie so early but this trailer intrigued me.
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It feels like it's hearkening back to the original film, which was an allegorical protest of American nuclear testing and a commentary on the impact of devastating war on the Japanese people. It seems like this might be making those themes even more explicit, though it wouldn't have the same impact nearly 80 years after the fact.
 
Christopher said:
It feels like it's hearkening back to the original film, which was an allegorical protest of American nuclear testing and a commentary on the impact of devastating war on the Japanese people. It seems like this might be making those themes even more explicit, though it wouldn't have the same impact nearly 80 years after the fact.
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That's part of my issue. Godzilla can be updated for modern times. But I think this will still be good
 
Christopher said:
It feels like it's hearkening back to the original film, which was an allegorical protest of American nuclear testing and a commentary on the impact of devastating war on the Japanese people. It seems like this might be making those themes even more explicit, though it wouldn't have the same impact nearly 80 years after the fact.
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Well, it is coming out a few months after Oppenheimer... (wow, imagine that as a drive-in double feature!)
 
MikHutch said:
That's part of my issue. Godzilla can be updated for modern times. But I think this will still be good
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Godzilla has frequently been updated to comment on modern concerns, e.g. the superpowers' nuclear arms race in The Return of Godzilla, environmental concerns in multiple films, GMK's critique of the younger generation forgetting Japan's culpability in WWII, or Shin Godzilla's critique of the bureaucracy's response to crises. That's why it's interesting that they're trying a different approach, going back to the franchise's roots, or even farther in a way. It's something they haven't tried before, Godzilla as historical fiction. (Aside from isolated things like the wartime flashbacks in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah or the Godzilla: Awakening comic prequel to the 2014 Legendary movie.)
 
Christopher said:
Godzilla has frequently been updated to comment on modern concerns, e.g. the superpowers' nuclear arms race in The Return of Godzilla, environmental concerns in multiple films, GMK's critique of the younger generation forgetting Japan's culpability in WWII, or Shin Godzilla's critique of the bureaucracy's response to crises. That's why it's interesting that they're trying a different approach, going back to the franchise's roots, or even farther in a way. It's something they haven't tried before, Godzilla as historical fiction. (Aside from isolated things like the wartime flashbacks in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah or the Godzilla: Awakening comic prequel to the 2014 Legendary movie.)
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I guess I'm not really into "going back to the roots" as much as seeing things go forward.
 
MikHutch said:
I guess I'm not really into "going back to the roots" as much as seeing things go forward.
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I normally am too, but they've done going forward plenty of times, so it's not like there's a lack of it. This is a different approach, which is certainly worth a look.

And the one time they went really forward in time, the anime movie trilogy, it turned out pretty badly. It's not what they do that matters, only how they do it.
 
Christopher said:
I normally am too, but they've done going forward plenty of times, so it's not like there's a lack of it. This is a different approach, which is certainly worth a look.

And the one time they went really forward in time, the anime movie trilogy, it turned out pretty badly. It's not what they do that matters, only how they do it.
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Well yeah but the anime trilogy had the most unique premise. The problem was the execution. We've seen Godzilla attack Japan a million times
 
MikHutch said:
Well yeah but the anime trilogy had the most unique premise. The problem was the execution.
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Exactly my point. A premise that seems unappealing or predictable may turn out to be wonderfully executed, just as a premise that seems fascinating can be poorly executed. There's no way to know from the concept alone.


We've seen Godzilla attack Japan a million times
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We've seen Godzilla attack modern, prosperous cities in Japan. We haven't seen Godzilla attack Japan in the specific context of the immediate aftermath of WWII, when the nation was already in ruins before Godzilla even got there. That context changes everything, and I'm intrigued to see how they intend to utilize it. It might offer some interesting insights into Japan's perspective on their own postwar history.
 
This looks pretty cool.
So is this it's own standalone thing, or are people supposed to have been unaware that this happened by the time we get to the original movie?
 
Christopher said:
We've seen Godzilla attack modern, prosperous cities in Japan. We haven't seen Godzilla attack Japan in the specific context of the immediate aftermath of WWII, when the nation was already in ruins before Godzilla even got there. That context changes everything, and I'm intrigued to see how they intend to utilize it. It might offer some interesting insights into Japan's perspective on their own postwar history.
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One side bit that might be interesting is that this movie probably falls into the time frame of the occupation of Japan under General MacArthur. I'm curious to see how this issue will be involved in the movie. The military fighting Godzilla would be the Allied Forces, for example.
 
There's a rumor that there will be two Godzillas -- one is radiation scarred and the other is normal giant mutant. And of course, they fight one another! A soft reboot of War of the Gargantuas playing out, perhaps?
 
JD said:
This looks pretty cool.
So is this it's own standalone thing, or are people supposed to have been unaware that this happened by the time we get to the original movie?
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Godzilla movies have occupied many different continuities over the decades. The first seven Toho continuities (the original Showa-era series from 1954-75, the Heisei series from 1984-95, and the six films in five different continuities from 1999-2004) all count the 1954 original as part of their history while otherwise being separate realities, but everything since then (Shin Godzilla, the anime Earth Trilogy, the Singular Point anime series, and of course the Legendary MonsterVerse) has been in continuities where the 1954 film never happened. Presumably Minus One is yet another reboot universe.


Kai "the spy" said:
One side bit that might be interesting is that this movie probably falls into the time frame of the occupation of Japan under General MacArthur. I'm curious to see how this issue will be involved in the movie. The military fighting Godzilla would be the Allied Forces, for example.
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With the already war-battered civilians of Japan being caught in the middle? That could be intriguing, if it's told from their perspective.
 
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