Mine preserves canon, but yours is more dramatic.
The took "Constructed at San Francisco Fleet Yards" too literally?
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Mine can be made to work within canon, if we assume that "Q" for some reason later altered the time-line to bring Earth back into existence.
I think that's a thoroughly reasonable assumption, completely in line with the way alien science works in the "Star Trek Universe."
Got a crowbar?
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Okay, Kurgan, drop the Trekkie-speak, take off the dilithium tinted glasses and take a deep breath. It's just a teaser. Nothing more, nothing less. Until there is confirmation that it's either an actual scene from the movie, or that it's just a metaphor for the movie, or the whole franchise, being under construction, you should just relax. And if it is, WHO CARES?? I mean, who really cares if it was built in Area 51, some made up San Francisco shipyard, in orbit, on Mars, or in Hackensack, New Jersey?? Certainly not the mainstream moviegoer. You know, the majority that matters ? And not us, the Trekkie loser minority. I honestly can't believe that this is still a source of debate.
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I'd prefer a scenario in which, at some future date, Jean-luc Picard does something incredibly careless, thereby preserving your dramatic -- but brief -- scenario at the cost of his own competence and credibility.
I'm into short-term gratification. Bring it on.
Actually, I'm hoping that the Temporal Cold War is somehow involved. There's so much more good still to come from that.
I'm betting that FutureGuy was actually the newly designed NCC-1701. If you look closely at his silhouette, you can see the wings.
I'm betting that FutureGuy was actually the newly designed NCC-1701. If you look closely at his silhouette, you can see the wings.
Now, the important thing about "Q" bringing back the Earth after its destruction is:
1) It happens during his first encounter with Picard on the U.S.S. Stargazer (about ten years before "Encounter At Farpoint);"
2) Everyone remembers the Earth having been destroyed and having lived alternate lives and then finding themselves back on Earth ten years ago but no one ever mentions it because, hey, it happened ten years ago and how often do you talk about ten years ago?
Of course, since Picard forgets to ask "Q" his name, no one recognizes him when he appears again in "Encounter."
1) It happens during his first encounter with Picard on the U.S.S. Stargazer (about ten years before "Encounter At Farpoint);"
2) Everyone remembers the Earth having been destroyed and having lived alternate lives and then finding themselves back on Earth ten years ago but no one ever mentions it because, hey, it happened ten years ago and how often do you talk about ten years ago?
Of course, since Picard forgets to ask "Q" his name, no one recognizes him when he appears again in "Encounter."
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Doubtful since Enterpise had First Contact with the Ferengi and Romulans when TOS and TNG were supposedly the first for Both.
That's not important IMAO.
Nope. The Ferengi were a known entity to the Federation when Picard is assigned to track down a Ferengi ship that stole an energy converter. How else would Starfleet know their name, ship designs and culture? "The Last Outpost" was just the first official face to face meeting. IIRC, there is a Ferrengi at the bar where Picard was injured in a fight with a Nausican as a young man. Obviously the Ferengi have been working in around UFP space for a long time without taking to the time to announce themselves.
The Romulans fought a war with Earth 100 years prior to TOS. (As established in "The Balance of Terror" a TOS episode) So Romulans showing up around the time of ENT makes perfect sense.
There's also the fact that the Stargazer was fired on by a Ferengi Marauder while Picard was in command, ten or thirteen years before the "official" meeting.
But the Ferengi didn't give their name that time, either, so no one remembered them or their ships.
And there's no way that TOS featured first contact between the Romulans and humans - they fought a little war, remember, about one hundred years previous. In Kirk's time, no "human, ally or Romulan has ever seen the other" - as far as they knew. Stiles is quick to point out that there might be Romulan spies aboard the Enterprise - obviously he wasn't a big fan of canon, and so was able to reason that when one doesn't know what someone looks like, one doesn't recognize them when one sees them.
But the Ferengi didn't give their name that time, either, so no one remembered them or their ships.
And there's no way that TOS featured first contact between the Romulans and humans - they fought a little war, remember, about one hundred years previous. In Kirk's time, no "human, ally or Romulan has ever seen the other" - as far as they knew. Stiles is quick to point out that there might be Romulan spies aboard the Enterprise - obviously he wasn't a big fan of canon, and so was able to reason that when one doesn't know what someone looks like, one doesn't recognize them when one sees them.
Agreed. "Enterprise" is not important.
Well, as far as the trailer goes, it ISN'T canon. If the trailer had been a big delta logo flying through space being buzzed by the Big E, would THAT have been "canon" as well? Are there moon-sized star trek logos flying around out there we should know about
And to be honest, you can't even tell it's on earth, that's just an assumption. There is no sky or trees or grass, just a lot of smoke and steam and a black background AFAICT. It could be an enclosed orbital facility like Utopia Planetia.
...no Golden Gate Bridge shoehorned into the background, no matter which direction you're looking (never mind that's it's always been completely impossible to see from the old, earthbound Naval Shipyard... )
