It's being passed down in a bloodline - guaranteed to be there in offspring -because it's biological.
Star Wars: Visions - Anime Anthology Series
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@Set Harth is right. ROTJ absolutely established that Obi-Wan and the Emperor both understood Force ability to be hereditary, especially in the case of the Skywalkers, and they understood it to be the case before Luke and Leia were ever conceived.
However bloodline does not appear to be absolute. Palpatine's "kid" was not Force sensitive, but his granddaughter was. Obi-wan seems to be the only one in his family that had the Force. We didn't hear about any of Ki Adi Mundi's kids having the Force. The Skywalkers might be a bit special in that regard due to their origin. Though we have not really seen about Jacen Syndulla yet.
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Facts don't cease to be because they are ignored - nor do they cease to be when attempts at some sort of 'insult' thrown at people providing information.
But as you're having a great time in this thread demonstrating how wrong you are, and how abrupt with others who've taken the time to provide information and facts... by all means, please continue...
Ah, so you're just deliberately being a gobshite then. Got it. Blocked and moving on!
Given that Qui-Gon's first question about Anakin was "who was his father?" indicates that it's known that bloodlines can and sometimes do play a part, at least when it comes to those of exceptional potential.
It probably doesn't happen often since Jedi don't generally start families. So when the trait arises within a family line, they go off, become Jedi and typically that's where that line ends.
Just speculating; but it may not be all that uncommon for a new initiate to be found who's the descendent of one or more Jedi that left the Order, one way on another. We know that as of Dooku, only 20 Masters had left the Order (that they know of) but there's probably been an order or two of magnitude more Knights, Padawans, and even Initiates that left (IIRC, one of Obi-Wan's childhood clanmates took off, never to be seen again.) So there could be a number of bloodlines out there strong in the force, whether the families know about it or not. And yeah, it likely skips a generation or five.
I also sometimes wonder if part of the historical reason why the Jedi if not forbade, but at least frowned on members of their order siring progeny is that at some point in the past, there were Jedi families and it predictably devolved into an aristocracy with all the headaches that would ensue with the added bonus of this group of increasingly power hungry elitists having naturally strong potential.
If nothing else, one would assume that even if they Jedi never got themselves into that position, the Sith almost certainly did.
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Ah, so you're just deliberately being a gobshite then. Got it. Blocked and moving on!
Throwing out insults like 'gobshite' because others simply proved you incorrect on your claim that 'midichorians were part of Lucas's notes as early as '77'? Really?
And then blocking them because they tell you the facts won't go away regardless of you ignoring them, your deflections, and your insults. Even after you telling others who were correct that they are 'uniformed in the audience' and to 'please pipe down?''. That seems to have hurt your ego.
You come across like a toddler throwing a tantrum, though I may be being harsh on toddlers there. Others will likely look at your posts in here, and it will be you who is considered 'a gobshite'. Oh well...
Ah, so you're just deliberately being a gobshite then. Got it. Blocked and moving on!
Warning for flaming. Comments to PM. And everyone else please cease with making things personal.
Since the credits on Wookieepedia listed the Korean voice cast for "Journey to the Dark Head" before the English cast, I decided to watch it in Korean. The lip sync definitely fit the Korean dialogue, though I haven't gone back to watch the English dub and see if that's any different.
Anyway, it's very good-looking; Studio Mir does excellent work. I'd like to see a whole Star Wars series animated in this mode rather than 3D. The story was okay, though the concept/MacGuffin of the statues was rather weird. I wasn't clear on where it fell in the timeline, but Wookieepedia says it's about a thousand years before the prequels, during the Jedi/Sith wars. I guess that fits, as far as I understand it. But I'm iffy on the idea of light and dark energies manifesting as visible colors. I mean, yeah, lightsabers tend to be color-coded for good and evil, but Sith lightsabers' kyber crystals have to be "corrupted" in some specific way to make them red. But hey, maybe there was some similar crystal used in the statue, involving some technique that had been lost a millennium later.
Listening to the Korean dialogue, I was struck by how similar its rhythms and phonetics were to Japanese, and how there even seemed to be a few similar-sounding words, even though the two languages are from different families. I guess they've been cross-pollinating over the centuries of interaction.
Anyway, it's very good-looking; Studio Mir does excellent work. I'd like to see a whole Star Wars series animated in this mode rather than 3D. The story was okay, though the concept/MacGuffin of the statues was rather weird. I wasn't clear on where it fell in the timeline, but Wookieepedia says it's about a thousand years before the prequels, during the Jedi/Sith wars. I guess that fits, as far as I understand it. But I'm iffy on the idea of light and dark energies manifesting as visible colors. I mean, yeah, lightsabers tend to be color-coded for good and evil, but Sith lightsabers' kyber crystals have to be "corrupted" in some specific way to make them red. But hey, maybe there was some similar crystal used in the statue, involving some technique that had been lost a millennium later.
Listening to the Korean dialogue, I was struck by how similar its rhythms and phonetics were to Japanese, and how there even seemed to be a few similar-sounding words, even though the two languages are from different families. I guess they've been cross-pollinating over the centuries of interaction.
"The Spy Dancer": Wow, this was fantastic. A potent story with beautiful animation on the dancing and acrobatics, and I love the novelty of using those art forms as a basis for a fight sequence, although they rather stretched physics here and there and it's hard to believe those ribbons could be that strong (though I suppose the characters' species could be exceptionally strong). This is probably my favorite one yet.
"The Bandits of Golak": Less impressive. Though the setting, designs, and style were very Indian-inspired, a novel look for SW, the story wasn't anything too different from what we've seen before, and the animation is the most conventional, and sometimes fairly stiff.
"The Pit": A good one, well-made. It kind of felt like an allegory for racism, the fight of the oppressed to get people to listen and acknowledge their need -- which made the ending rather idealistic. I wondered why the prisoners were all human and why the Empire used such crude slave labor to mine when droids would've been more efficient, but both those things were also features of the prison in Andor, so I guess it's just more of the Empire's intrinsic cruelty where the point is to work people to death as an end in itself.
"Aau's Song": Just beautiful. The environment was amazing, and I loved the unique design approach, like stuffed animals come to life. The story was a bit basic, but still nice. In some ways, it felt very Miyazaki-esque. (Although I worry what's going to happen to this kyber-rich planet once the Empire comes along sometime in the future, what with Project Stardust and all.)
"The Bandits of Golak": Less impressive. Though the setting, designs, and style were very Indian-inspired, a novel look for SW, the story wasn't anything too different from what we've seen before, and the animation is the most conventional, and sometimes fairly stiff.
"The Pit": A good one, well-made. It kind of felt like an allegory for racism, the fight of the oppressed to get people to listen and acknowledge their need -- which made the ending rather idealistic. I wondered why the prisoners were all human and why the Empire used such crude slave labor to mine when droids would've been more efficient, but both those things were also features of the prison in Andor, so I guess it's just more of the Empire's intrinsic cruelty where the point is to work people to death as an end in itself.
"Aau's Song": Just beautiful. The environment was amazing, and I loved the unique design approach, like stuffed animals come to life. The story was a bit basic, but still nice. In some ways, it felt very Miyazaki-esque. (Although I worry what's going to happen to this kyber-rich planet once the Empire comes along sometime in the future, what with Project Stardust and all.)
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"absolutely established". Not at all. For all we know it could be that Palpatine knew that someone in the Skywalker family was going to dethrone him; nothing to do with biological aspects of Force heredity. The movies don't show much of Palpatine but at least in Clone Wars and Rebels it seems he had some knowledge of Force sorcery or whatever that is. We understand that there was some prophecy about that family.
I'm not discounting biology. I'm just saying there is no "there it is" proof as y'all are claiming.
It's a question of nature vs. nurture.
Luke and Leia are raised in completely different environments, one in relative squalor, the other in the lap of luxury, by people of different temperaments, at opposite ends of the galaxy ( in the Asimovian sense ), and have quite different personal histories, yet their Force potential is destined to be the same.
Why? Random chance?
Luke and Leia are raised in completely different environments, one in relative squalor, the other in the lap of luxury, by people of different temperaments, at opposite ends of the galaxy ( in the Asimovian sense ), and have quite different personal histories, yet their Force potential is destined to be the same.
Why? Random chance?
Finally had the chance to watch all of the episodes and I'm simply blown away by the wide range of art and stories and cultural heritage each studio brought to their respective shorts. "Screecher's Reach" (particularly for all of the reasons Reverend already went over), "The Pit," "Sith," and "Aau's Song" were by far my favorite stories and animation styles, while "I Am Your Mother" is the kind of wonderfully fun, lighthearted adventure that only Aardman could produce.
I enjoyed the entire season, although I wasn't fond of the lead performances in "The Bandits of Golak" (both vocally and facially).
It's curious to see the diversion in opinions between this season and the last, going both ways. I'm not the biggest fan of anime and I'm hard pressed to recall any of the episodes, except maybe one or two but almost entirely visually. Whereas I firmly believe most of the shorts in season two will stick with me for a long time, especially the five I particularly highlighted. I hope that if we do get more seasons that the show continues to utilize a wide range of animation styles (yes, including anime, just not exclusively).
I enjoyed the entire season, although I wasn't fond of the lead performances in "The Bandits of Golak" (both vocally and facially).
It's curious to see the diversion in opinions between this season and the last, going both ways. I'm not the biggest fan of anime and I'm hard pressed to recall any of the episodes, except maybe one or two but almost entirely visually. Whereas I firmly believe most of the shorts in season two will stick with me for a long time, especially the five I particularly highlighted. I hope that if we do get more seasons that the show continues to utilize a wide range of animation styles (yes, including anime, just not exclusively).
Just got back around to rewatch some of these and holy crap does 'I Am Your Mother' have a ton of background easter eggs that I didn't spot the first time around!
in Anni's home alone I spotted: -
Plus Hanna city itself is in a decidedly desert environment where it's usually depicted as a coastal city. Not that those are mutually exclusive, plus the ocean could easily be on the *other* side of the city (to say nothing of the unnecessary expense & complications of animated an ocean for a stop motion short.) I just thought it was an interesting detail.
Also wondering at the implication of Wedge being such a prominent figure. Did he settle down on Chandrila after the war to teach at the flight Academy? Makes sense. Nobody ever wants to go back to Corellia. Wouldn't be surprised if Hera did the same given all the posters of her around the place, though I always kind of assumed she made her home on Lothal.
in Anni's home alone I spotted: -
- Posters featuring Hera, Wedge, and that band from season 1's 'Tatooine Rhapsody'.
- A Max Rebo sticker & plushie.
- A model of the flight academy building next to a pair of Hoth style electrobinoculars, and a hat with goggles that looks oddly familiar.
- A model of Wallace & Grommet's moon rocket from 'A Grand Day Out' (also the robot shows up in one of the later crowd scenes.)
- Just next to that is what looks like an old 80's model of soda stream. I mean it's no ice cream maker, but that feels like a kind of a sideways reference, no?
- The model X-Wing in focus next to the T-16 has Wedge's 'Red 2' markings.
- Oh and there's a quad jumper parked next to their home/mode of transportation.
- Then at the race track itself: aside from the obvious inclusions like the Hutt Starhopper, Naboo star skiff, & Stinger Mantis looking ships, and the usual roster of familiar aliens, there's the market stalls which seems to be selling nothing but Star Wars references.
- The battledress of the Huttslayer (aka; Leia's slave bikini.)
- Luke's hunting rifle, training remote & helmet with blast shield down (plus the binocs & T-16 again), severed hand, and father's lightsaber getting half-inched by a sneaky Maz Kanata arm.
- Separate portaloos for Jawas, humanoids of any gender, and Wookiees respectively.
- Carved wooden statues like the ones you get at Galaxy's Edge including Banthas, Blurgs & Porgs (plus there's balloons around the place,)
- Some large banners featuring Hera.
- What I'm 90% sure is Chopper (just left of frame to the aforementioned W&G moon robot, behind an R5 Unit) though he's oddly immobile.
Plus Hanna city itself is in a decidedly desert environment where it's usually depicted as a coastal city. Not that those are mutually exclusive, plus the ocean could easily be on the *other* side of the city (to say nothing of the unnecessary expense & complications of animated an ocean for a stop motion short.) I just thought it was an interesting detail.
Also wondering at the implication of Wedge being such a prominent figure. Did he settle down on Chandrila after the war to teach at the flight Academy? Makes sense. Nobody ever wants to go back to Corellia. Wouldn't be surprised if Hera did the same given all the posters of her around the place, though I always kind of assumed she made her home on Lothal.
Still need to give it a second look, but 'The Pit' was one of my least favourite (but by no means bad, in any sense.) I guess the implied allegory felt a little too on the nose for my tastes.
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They were at the right place at the right time. Naturally, they became heroes.
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'Star Wars: Visions Returns with Volume 3 in 2025'...
The critically-acclaimed series of animated shorts returns to Japan for a third installment in collaboration with nine anime studios.
www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-visions-season-3-announce
'Star Wars: Visions is returning to its anime roots with nine new shorts slated for release next year.
At the 2024 Disney APAC Content Showcase, it was exclusively revealed that Star Wars: Visions will debut a third volume in 2025.
The award-winning series first premiered in 2021, with nine shorts by seven different Japanese anime studios celebrating the mythology of Star Wars through unique cultural perspectives. Last year’s second volume took the imaginative series on a global tour, featuring animation from across Japan, India, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Spain, Chile, France, South Africa, South Korea, and the United States.
Now with Star Wars: Visions Volume 3, the animated anthology returns to where it all began with nine shorts from nine different anime studios, including returning contributors Kamikaze Douga, Kinema citrus Co., Production I.G, and TRIGGER. The next installment will also introduce five new anime studios to the world of Star Wars — ANIMA (in co-production with Kamikaze Douga), David Production, Polygon Pictures, Project Studio Q, and WIT Studio — to further demonstrate the diversity and creativity of Japanese animation.'
Love the first two seasons of Visions - and looking really forward for this new third season.
