Brain surgery? One day recovery?!
They can't possibly have Dr. Bashir and access to Federation medicine.
They can't possibly have Dr. Bashir and access to Federation medicine.
Speed of Plot Consternation
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This was a great blog for medical realism in TV and books until the author stopped updating it: https://redwoodsmedicaledge.com/
Dr. I. Morg,
Oh, NCIS commits the speed of plot sin too.
There was one (of many) episode where the agents return to their office in Washington DC from being in Germany in a matter of minutes. The sun was up in Germany when they left, the sun was up in DC when they walked into their office, and they were still wearing the dusty, dirty clothes they had on when they finished their mission.
And then there was the NCIS episode where one character worked the left side of the ascii keyboard while the other worked the right as they typed code to stop a hacker (or something)
There was one (of many) episode where the agents return to their office in Washington DC from being in Germany in a matter of minutes. The sun was up in Germany when they left, the sun was up in DC when they walked into their office, and they were still wearing the dusty, dirty clothes they had on when they finished their mission.
And then there was the NCIS episode where one character worked the left side of the ascii keyboard while the other worked the right as they typed code to stop a hacker (or something)
My wife and I recently watched an episode of The Good Doctor (a show we’ve never seen before) because a friend of ours was in it.
His character went from being diagnosed with a brain tumor, to surgery, to recovery in one day.
Spock referred to McCoy as "the good doctor" now and again. Humm...
Everyone does it. Even with a portal allowing instantaneous travel, there's no way Jack Bauer could have gotten to all the places he did in the span of one day, let alone one hour.
It's been a common phrase since at least the 1600s. Here's a cool thread about its history (if you think etymology is cool, but hey, of course it is): https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/268500/what-does-good-doctor-mean
The only time I'm truly bothered with "playing fast-and-loose" is when actual people are disparaged/demonized/discriminated against (e.g., outright racism masquerading as fact); if it's science or law or virtually any other field of study, I can let a lot slide if the story is engaging. Ultimately, it is not the duty of the realm of entertainment to be factual; education is still important. I feel sorry for people that can't let go.
No, it's not the "duty" of fiction to be accurate, but it's an option. Different creators have the right to tell stories in different ways, and different audiences have the right to like different kinds of stories. It's not that we "can't let go" -- what an incredibly condescending and insulting way to twist it -- it's just that we like it when some creators strive for more realism than others. There is no one "correct" way to tell a story or to enjoy it.
I suppose it depends on the mood of the show, who it's written for, and whether it seems like the writers consistently care, or just throw things into the mix - "hey, that'd be cool" - without even questioning whether it's coherent.
Sort of a Mad Libs approach. If that's what it's supposed to be, great. If it's unequivocally not, and drops off due to a momentary lapse or encroaching apathy, fans notice.
Sort of a Mad Libs approach. If that's what it's supposed to be, great. If it's unequivocally not, and drops off due to a momentary lapse or encroaching apathy, fans notice.
That did bug me in Picard. The whole of season 3 took place within a week and in that time they managed to get to the edge of Federation space, the Chin'toka battle site and back to Earth. I know the Titan is supposed to be a fast ship but you don't go at max speed all the time.
I would have altered the story so things were clearer that they were relatively close to Earth throughout.
I would have altered the story so things were clearer that they were relatively close to Earth throughout.
Yes, but I think Nerys Myk was referring to viewers not letting minor inconsistencies bother them, not the creators. I think that's the only sane way to watch a show, honestly.
I remember a two-parter on Homicide: Life on the Street where the first episode covered a murder investigation, arrest, and the entire trial, and the aftermath of the killer being found not guilty in the second. In the second part, Lt. Giardello orders Detective Kellerman to take a second look at the initial investigation because Kellerman was out of town at his cousin's wedding when it happened in the previous episode -- implying that the investigation, arrest, and trial all happened over the course of a few days!
But hey, it still worked beautifully as drama, so whatever.
If the average Top Speed of the USS Titan-A is supposed to be Warp 9.99.
Tom Paris stated that USS Voyager was able to hit Warp 9.9 ~= 21,473 c
I did a estimate based on Tom Paris stated scale after Warp 9 since the TNG Warp Factor formula has a hand-drawn curve to infinity (LITERALLY, it's complete BS).
Based on Tom Paris stated scaling, I figured out the scaling factor between This Warp Speed Calculator and what Tom Paris stated and adjusted for Warp 9.99.
Warp 9.99 ~= 56,084 c.
That's nearly Warp Factor 27 on my Warp Factor 3.0 scale, that allows you to cover 6.73613963039015 ly in 1 hr.
So it seems believable that they can cross the entirety of Federation Space in 1 weeks time.
Yeah but it’s to the edge of their space AND back. There is also the thing that the ship can go at that speed but for not for very long since it puts a considerable strain on the warp injectors. Its max cruising speed is the speed the ship usually travels at which is around warp 7/8.
The quick travel times just gave the impression that they were always very close to Earth which makes Starfleet look very inept as they couldn’t find them.
Now if they had slipstream tech like Prodigy’s Dauntless, it would make the short times easier to digest. Even the scenes where they get away from other ships would work since they could say that their slipstream drive is undetectable when in use.
The quick travel times just gave the impression that they were always very close to Earth which makes Starfleet look very inept as they couldn’t find them.
Now if they had slipstream tech like Prodigy’s Dauntless, it would make the short times easier to digest. Even the scenes where they get away from other ships would work since they could say that their slipstream drive is undetectable when in use.
Hacking has had difficulties in media for a while.
You mean the M/A-M Injectors.
But it's top speed should be sustainable for several hours.
StarFleet has never been that good at finding run-aways and those who want to hide.
::shrugs:: That would be nice if everybody had SlipStream by now, but it seems that only a few select ships have it.
Several hours, sit but like you said getting to the edge of Federation space is a lot further than that.
I assume all Odyssey class ships have it by then. There were a few in the fleet.
I didn’t see any Vestas. That’s like the last noticeable post Nemesis novel ship that hasn’t appeared yet.
"Fly her apart then! At least our parts will get there one way or another1"
