Spoilers Titans - DC Universe Series
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When is the episode when Stargirl appears?
I really enjoyed the soft rock station as brainwashing method. 
Does anyone know if they had any idea this might be the last season or could we end on a cliffhanger?
Does anyone know if they had any idea this might be the last season or could we end on a cliffhanger?
I don't know, but the only season that ended with a major cliffhanger was the first, and that's because they postponed the intended finale to be the season 2 premiere. Season 2 only had a minimal cliffhanger with Blackfire arriving on Earth after the arc had been wrapped up, and season 3 didn't have a cliffhanger as far as I recall. So I'd be surprised if they did a cliffhanger this season.
Anyway, if they were unsure of renewal, they could've done what Stargirl did in its final season, which was to shoot two endings, one that set up a subsequent season and one (which they ended up using) that provided a coda.
Blimey, wasn't expecting Grant Morrison to show up and recreate a key moment from the comics story that propeled them to stardom.
A mixed bag of an episode. I could've done without the "Magical Negro" treatment of Freedom Beast. I suppose the character (whom I hadn't heard of before) was an attempt to be a less culturally appropriative replacement for B'wana Beast (who got a name drop as the previous owner of the mask), but the way he was treated here was rather stereotyped. (Incidentally, his actor, Nyambi Nyambi, is the voice of Martian Manhunter in the current DC animated direct-to-video movie continuity.)
I guess the high point is Gar's trip through the multiverse, with glimpses of the Earth-Prime Flash, Swamp Thing, the DCEU Shazam, Grant Morrison, Teen Titans Go! Beast Boy (but only on someone's TV), and a wealth of archive DC audio before the big crossovers -- first the return of Stargirl from cancellation limbo (a shorter scene than I expected), then what appears to be Gar ending up in the alternate universe of Doom Patrol. At least, I assume it must be the alternate versions from their own series rather than the ones who appeared in Titans episode 3, otherwise why bother with the multiverse-hopping? But Cyborg recognized Beast Boy, which was unexpected. I guess he has a doppelganger there?
Anyway, I'm curious to see where that's going to go. It'll be nice if we finally get a live-action Cyborg/Beast Boy teamup, and it's nice to see Cyborg finally show up in Titans, a show I'm surprised he wasn't part of to begin with. But just how much of a crossover are we going to get? And is it just going to be on Titans, or is there a chance it could continue into Doom Patrol?
I guess the high point is Gar's trip through the multiverse, with glimpses of the Earth-Prime Flash, Swamp Thing, the DCEU Shazam, Grant Morrison, Teen Titans Go! Beast Boy (but only on someone's TV), and a wealth of archive DC audio before the big crossovers -- first the return of Stargirl from cancellation limbo (a shorter scene than I expected), then what appears to be Gar ending up in the alternate universe of Doom Patrol. At least, I assume it must be the alternate versions from their own series rather than the ones who appeared in Titans episode 3, otherwise why bother with the multiverse-hopping? But Cyborg recognized Beast Boy, which was unexpected. I guess he has a doppelganger there?
Anyway, I'm curious to see where that's going to go. It'll be nice if we finally get a live-action Cyborg/Beast Boy teamup, and it's nice to see Cyborg finally show up in Titans, a show I'm surprised he wasn't part of to begin with. But just how much of a crossover are we going to get? And is it just going to be on Titans, or is there a chance it could continue into Doom Patrol?
A trippy episode. Nice to get a Gar-centric ep. I definitely preferred an African version of B'wana Beast and the namedrops of Animal Man and Vixen. Also, it was awesome to see Gar doing rapid shape changes!
Forgot about the White Saviour trope.
I was more thinking 'Hey! It's Jay from the Good Fight!"
OMG.
The name of the episode...
"Dude, where's my Gar!??"
I thought it was a pretty racist depiction of an African character -- a "Magical Negro" living half-naked in a cave atop Mt. Kilimanjaro, existing only to guide the protagonist toward his own destiny, and turning out to have a ruthless, violent, tradition-bound value system that the more enlightened hero rejects. It's good to reject the cultural appropriation of B'wana Beast, but this hash of stereotypes was even worse.
OK, I can see that.
How is this different from Lady Chronos on the Flash?
I don't think it was known to be her final appearance at the time that scene was shot.
It looks like they were trying to re-set up / re-introduce a DCEU Multiverse where all of the now canceled or repurposed HBOMAX DC content would have interacted.
That was my guess as well. Shame it won't happen. 
With Oliver Queen overseeing it
Well, the Doom Patrol guest appearances this week (just Cliff, Larry, and Vic, no women in sight) were amusing but ultimately kind of pointless. The episode left it vague, but I suppose this must've been the version of the characters from the Titans reality instead of the Doom Patrol reality, given that they don't reflect the changes in status that the characters on Doom Patrol have undergone over the past season or two.
Also, if the manifestation of Doom Manor was in the Red, the realm connecting all animal life, why was it so full of plant life? Plants are connected by the Green, Swamp Thing's domain.
The whole interlude with Dick and Rachel trying to sever her connection to Sebastian (using a spell from Dick's "friend in London," implicitly Constantine) also felt somewhat pointless. Having the connection just be manifested as some random rage monster that Dick had to fight was kind of out of the blue, and the mystic woman was way too broad a performance, like something out of a 1930s monster movie.
It looks like Conner hasn't gone entirely to the dark side. He seems to be sincere about trying to do good with LexCorp's resources, just in a more Macchiavellian way than the Superboy role permits. But it backfired and almost killed millions, so hopefully Conner will gain some humility from that.
Also, if the manifestation of Doom Manor was in the Red, the realm connecting all animal life, why was it so full of plant life? Plants are connected by the Green, Swamp Thing's domain.
The whole interlude with Dick and Rachel trying to sever her connection to Sebastian (using a spell from Dick's "friend in London," implicitly Constantine) also felt somewhat pointless. Having the connection just be manifested as some random rage monster that Dick had to fight was kind of out of the blue, and the mystic woman was way too broad a performance, like something out of a 1930s monster movie.
It looks like Conner hasn't gone entirely to the dark side. He seems to be sincere about trying to do good with LexCorp's resources, just in a more Macchiavellian way than the Superboy role permits. But it backfired and almost killed millions, so hopefully Conner will gain some humility from that.
Swamp Thing was encountered in Gar's interdimensional travels, so obviously they've considered the Swamp Thing connection.
Yes, obviously. The point is not about Swamp Thing. The point is that the Red is to animals as the Green is to plants. So having plants representing the Red doesn't make sense.
Who else could it be, though? A British expert in black magic who's "not the kind of guy you want to know"... hmm... I guess there's a chance it could be Jason Blood. Maybe mentioning him by name would be too confusing in this season about Brother Blood.
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