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The Nature of the Universe, Time Travel and More...

Dark Matter?
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-st...atter-behaves-more-like-a-wave-not-a-particle
Now, this article doesn't describe exactly HOW galaxies behave that led astronomers to infer Dark Matter, but I'm curious about this gravitational lensing that is being observed.

Certainly light, as a particle that behaves like a wave, is highly likely to be effected by gravity. I can easily imagine the halos, the distorted images and the refracted positioning of objects we observe. However, there is another phenomenon that I have observed that is probably also going on. Reflection.

When you drive down a highway on a sunny day and you see, way off ahead of you, that glossy, shimmering, watery image on the horizon of the road ahead, most of us think, 'that's heated air rising off the black road surface causing shifting refractions of the light passing through it. It is the mirage we see in the dessert that looks like water up ahead. But that isn't what is really going on.

The next time you are out on the open highway on a sunny day, cold or hot, or in the mall, or on the water on a windless, flat calm day, look out at the ground, water, floor, as far as you can see. You will notice that the images reflected from beyond get sharper the more acute the angle your eye is with the surface.

For example, walking in the mall where there is a long stretch of tiled floor, you will see the upside down images of the people reflected in the floor. Up close, those reflections are indistinct, almost bury shadows, but clearly reflections, not shadows. As you look outward, farther away, those reflections get sharper, more distinct. Colors and shapes are easier to distinguish. A hundred meters or so away, the people walking in the mall will have reflections almost as clear as if they were walking on a mirror.

The thing is, my physics professor, when I mentioned this to him, said, "No. The road surface is non-reflective."

But, it isn't non-reflective. Most highways are not actually black, they are a conglomerate rock-like aggregate glued together by tar. Their surface is rough and the bits of mica, and other material act more to disperse light, then to absorb it.

When you look straight down at the ground, the light reflected back to your eye is a collection of photons that are gathered from numerous sources. The Sun outside, is the biggest source, but you also receive reflected light from other nearby objects reflecting their light onto the object you are looking at. Most of the light is actually reflected away in a whole bunch of different directions, diffusion. You only see the tiny percentage of light reflected to you specifically as a consequence of a chaotic spray of varied sources and intensities of light by statistical average.

Imagine the rough surface of a road. All the angles and textures that diffuse the reflected light. When that light is from directly overhead, by far, most of that light is scattered and lost as a coherent image. But, angle the light source. Use only light being reflected off the clouds, the blue sky, the distant trees, buildings, the one car that is far ahead of you. The light emanating from these objects only reflect off the very tops of those bumps and textures. They strike and reflect off angled surfaces that disperse less of their light and maintain the cohesion of their images to reach the viewer's, your, eye.

The next time you are out on an open highway, study those mirages. You will see the objects beyond them, upside-down, reflected, not refracted, in the road surface. The shimmering is from your constantly changing position which means the undulating surface of the road that reflects those images is also always changing.

I have been out on the water, on a bright, windless day and the islands in the distance actually looked like they were floating above the horizon. It wasn't the distortions of heated air coming off the water. The water became so reflective, at a certain acute angle, that there appeared to be a false horizon well below the real horizon and the islands were reflecting their contours below them in the water. But the sky was also reflected, and at a very specific angle, the reflections lost cohesion and created a clear false horizon that may even, itself, have been a reflection of the real horizon.
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The distorted, reflected, refracted phenomenon is called Fata Morgana. It is a danger in aviation.

Anyhow, I would expect spherical astronomical objects to exhibit a similar false horizon. A moon, half peeking out behind a large planet might actually look like a whole moon showing itself next to a planet that would be mistakenly measured as much smaller in diameter than it really is. An error in size measurement would lead to an error in inference of density and its relationship to the gravity that held that moon in place. Could such a phenomenon work on a galactic level? Might it be possible that what we take for refraction is actually reflection?

-Will
 
There are reflection nebulae, but they don't function like mirages or Fata Morganas (not sure of the plural of the latter as Fata Morgana is Italian for fairy Morgana). What you're describing would require a sufficiently optically thick, refractive medium, which doesn't exist in intergalactic space as far as I'm aware. Specular reflection would require something akin to a persistent plasma mirror. Only transient plasma mirrors are known and they are used with high intensity, ultrafast lasers.

Plasma mirror - Wikipedia
 
Plasma mirrors don't work as described above. As for density of material, think about how light transitions from one medium to another. When striking the new medium at a larger angle, an angle closer to 90°, most, if not all, of the light enters the new medium, although it may refracted in one direction or another. But at an acute angle, more of the light is reflected away. This is probably due to an apparent increase in the reflective density from striking at an angle.

-Will
 
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In this illustration, specular reflection is assumed. I did find an article that illustrated what I described above, but it was on an art site and was describing the effects of light on water and how it looked if one were to paint a sea scape. I'll look to see if I can find that article again. It had illustrations.

Sorry, I offer only opinion, not peer approval.

-Will
 
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Measurements of dispersion would likely be a test of your hypothesis that allow comparison with gravitational lensing, where dispersion is not predicted provided that the wavelength is much shorter than the radius of curvature. If rainbow effects were detected, you might have a case. For Rayleigh scattering, the amount of scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength.

Dispersion (optics) - Wikipedia
 
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It looks like what I'm describing is closer to Mie Scattering than Rayleigh Scattering.

Small particle Scattering would occur in an atmosphere and large particle scattering would be seen on a solid planet surface.

-Will
 
Well, you'd be wrong. Mie scattering refers to situations where the size of the scattering particles is comparable to the wavelength of the light, rather than much smaller or much larger. Rayleigh scattering is not applicable when the particle size becomes larger than around 10% of the wavelength of the incident radiation. I thought you were referring to cosmic plasmas on the scale of millions of light years, not a planetary scale. For plasmas, Thomson scattering is the elastic scattering of electromagnetic radiation by a free charged particle. It is the low-energy limit of Compton scattering. This limit implies the photon energy is much smaller than the mass energy of a plasma particle. The cross section for Compton scattering in this limit is independent of frequency. However, your model would not explain the arcs that are observed nor the fact that in some cases, the configuration of the lensed objects can be reconstructed assuming the lensing is gravitational. A scattering mechanism would produce a diffuse blob of light, not the arcs that we observe.
 
A scattering mechanism would produce a diffuse blob of light, not the arcs that we observe.
I agree, but my thoughts are about cohesive reflection instead of scattering. The more acute the angle of light to the surface, the more light would react as a specular reflection. The collective reflective angles of the surface to the light would cluster tighter and tighter towards a common mean angle, giving the diffusive surface more mirror- like qualities. This would be particularly visible around the horizon edges of planetary bodies, making them look smaller than they were, but it could also begin to take form on the surfaces of much less solid objects, like nebulae or even star clusters. Anything that started to look more solid as the viewing angle became more acute to the average surface plane. Maybe self-illuminated objects like stars or galaxies wouldn't show a reflection, but light has to reflect and thus add its illumination to the emitted radiation of the star.

-Will
 
Yes, I don't doubt reflection can occur on a smaller scale. However, any enhancement of illumination observed in our direction would be a random occurrence. It can't occur in all directions simultaneously due to conservation of energy.
 
Analysis of Einstein rings indicates that dark matter is more likely to be composed of axions rather than weakly interacting massive particles:

Unveiling the true nature of dark matter, which manifests itself only through gravity, is one of the principal quests in physics. Leading candidates for dark matter are weakly interacting massive particles or ultralight bosons (axions), at opposite extremes in mass scales, that have been postulated by competing theories to solve deficiencies in the Standard Model of particle physics. Whereas dark matter weakly interacting massive particles behave like discrete particles (ϱDM), quantum interference between dark matter axions is manifested as waves (ψDM). Here, we show that gravitational lensing leaves signatures in multiply lensed images of background galaxies that reveal whether the foreground lensing galaxy inhabits a ϱDM or ψDM halo. Whereas ϱDM lens models leave well documented anomalies between the predicted and observed brightnesses and positions of multiply lensed images, ψDM lens models correctly predict the level of anomalies remaining with ϱDM lens models. More challengingly, when subjected to a battery of tests for reproducing the quadruply lensed triplet images in the system HS 0810+2554, ψDM is able to reproduce all aspects of this system whereas ϱDM often fails. The ability of ψDM to resolve lensing anomalies even in demanding cases such as HS 0810+2554, together with its success in reproducing other astrophysical observations, tilt the balance toward new physics invoking axions.
Einstein rings modulated by wavelike dark matter from anomalies in gravitationally lensed images | Nature Astronomy

Unfortunately, only the abstract is readable on Nature unless you have an account.

Here is a link to an Arvix version of the information (slightly different title and contents):
Anomalies in Gravitational-Lensed Images Revealing
Einstein Rings Modulated by Wavelike Dark Matter


ETA: Anton Petrov's take on all this:

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A picture of a Space X spiral. Frozen rocket fuel dispersing at stage separation in space. The rocket's rotation gives the event a galaxy-like form.
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https://www.livescience.com/space/a...giant-perfect-spiral-above-alaska-what-was-it
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"As for the spiral seen in New Zealand, the galaxy-shaped feature was due to the upper stage of the Falcon 9 venting leftover fuel as it fell naturally into the Pacific Ocean."
https://www.space.com/spacex-rocket-launch-blue-spiral-photo

So, when we look at a galaxy far off in space and ask the question, "What holds galaxies together?" Maybe the answer is, nothing. Galaxies are in the process of dispersing over their n(billion year) existence. Consider the diameter of a galaxy and the time frame. What speed, from their centers, would the farthest stars in their longest, extreme tips of their spiral arms need to be traveling to get from the center of their galaxies to the outer edges in the time since their creation? Factor in the resistance to their expansion the gravitational effects of all that mass, and the explosion of the galaxy itself would still have to represent an almost incalculable amount of energy. No dark matter needed.

-Will
 
"When wireless is perfectly applied the whole earth will be converted into a huge brain, which in fact it is, all things being particles of a real and rhythmic whole. We shall be able to communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance," Tesla told Collier’s in the 1926 interview.
"Not only this, but through television and telephony we shall see and hear one another as perfectly as though we were face to face, despite intervening distances of thousands of miles; and the instruments through which we shall be able to do his will be amazingly simple compared with our present telephone. A man will be able to carry one in his vest pocket," he continued.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/resurf...-their-own-mind-eerily-predict-rise-of-ai.amp


Tesla was well acquainted with the Eastern philosophies and friends with Swami Vivekananda.
Swami Vivekananda, late in the year l895 wrote in a letter to an English friend, "Mr. Tesla thinks he can demonstrate mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go and see him next week to get this new mathematical demonstration. In that case the Vedantic cosmoloqy will be placed on the surest of foundations. I am working a good deal now upon the cosmology and eschatology of the Vedanta. I clearly see their perfect union with modern science, and the elucidation of the one will be followed by that of the other."
https://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_and_swami.htm

The idea of a global or meta mind is an ancient idea and has a great deal of merit.

-Will
 
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Enjoy a simulated flight to the edge of the known observable universe.
 
At 16,000x lightspeed—you are still near Sol…I would still call that impulse… seemed painfully slow.

This seems of interest:
https://phys.org/news/2023-05-smart-material-prototype-newton-laws.html

For more than 10 years, Guoliang Huang, the Huber and Helen Croft Chair in Engineering at the University of Missouri, has been investigating the unconventional properties of "metamaterials"—an artificial material that exhibits properties not commonly found in nature as defined by Newton's laws of motion—in his long-term pursuit of designing an ideal metamaterial.

The universe sim
https://www.universetoday.com/16250...raps-up-recreating-even-more-of-the-universe/
https://www.universetoday.com/16252...s-learn-what-the-milky-ways-arms-are-made-of/
https://www.universetoday.com/162441/a-massive-galaxy-with-almost-no-dark-matter/

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The secret to mastering any complex subject, according to renowned physicist and Nobel laureate Richard Feynman, is astonishingly simple: Learn it so that you can explain it to a child.
https://yourstory.com/2023/05/effective-learning-feynman-technique
Once you've chosen your topic, study it in depth.
You don't need to master it fully at this point - just gather enough information to form a basic understanding.
...explain your chosen topic as if you're teaching it to a child ... It's not about dumbing down the subject matter, but rather distilling it to its essence.
Read more at: https://yourstory.com/2023/05/effective-learning-feynman-technique

-Will
 
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We got a million years to prepare. That may not be enough time for us to truly become star-faring.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/science-and-space/astronomy/137137-?p=3379542#post3379542

I should hope we become starfaring well within a million years, but if not, perhapse a million years is enough time to learn how to divert or destroy an incoming star, or at least shield our system from undesirable effects.

Maybe we could transform the Earth into a spaceship and move out of the way, returning to orbit around Sol, once the danger has passed and our system has settled back into a new stasis. All we need to do is support life independent of the Sun and stay out of the way

-Will
 
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