Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Lord Garth]

To be clear, I was talking about Warped9, who changed 1966-1979 to 1966-1991. But The God Thing is another one. I'm fine with the Roddenberry Elite because they have a throughline I can understand.

But when someone claims everything from 1966 to 2005 is Gene's Vision, that's where I have to call foul.

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

Soooo you can do brightly lite TNG bridge and it would look cool on a modern TV show?


You don't have to do pitch black discovery and stargazer bridges?


Huh who knew

 

[fireproof78]

You don't have to do pitch black discovery and stargazer bridges?

You don't have to anything.

It's an artistic choice.

 

[XCV330]

I think the Ent-D bridge excitement will last about as long as people thought PT Cruisers were nifty, 20 years ago.

 

[Racefuel]

I think the Ent-D bridge excitement will last about as long as people thought PT Cruisers were nifty, 20 years ago.

I blame Voyager for starting us down this road

 

[Ovation]

I think the Ent-D bridge excitement will last about as long as people thought PT Cruisers were nifty, 20 years ago.

My dad loved his. Even had a stick. Think the only car he owned he liked more was his 68 ‘Cuda. Been restoring one for a few years (his first one was his first brand new car).

 

[Galaxy]

Picard Season 2 was to a large extent filmed with Cooke Anamorphic lenses, does anyone know what they used on Season 3, especially for the wide angle shots in the D bridge?

 

[The Rock]

Don't get me wrong, I liked season 1 and 2 but doesn't season 2 feel like a really depressing version of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home? It felt like it took itself much more seriously than it should've. Star Trek IV felt fun and lighthearted. Picard season 2 felt as if they were really trying hard to capture the spirit of ST IV with some humorous moments (like the street punk dude in the bus played by the same actor from ST IV) but the whole thing ended up feeling cynical. I think part of that, IMO, is the time period they chose when going back in time because even though at the end the heroes save the day and the timeline gets restored we all know that soon after World War III will start so their victory feels bittersweet.

 

[Tomalak]

Soooo you can do brightly lite TNG bridge and it would look cool on a modern TV show?

You don't have to do pitch black discovery and stargazer bridges?

Huh who knew

But does it actually look *good* or do we just like it because it makes us feel warm or fuzzy?

I can't be objective on that, and I doubt anyone else here can.

 

[gweeps]

Don't get me wrong, I liked season 1 and 2 but doesn't season 2 feel like a really depressing version of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home? It felt like it took itself much more seriously than it should've. Star Trek IV felt fun and lighthearted. Picard season 2 felt as if they were really trying hard to capture the spirit of ST IV with some humorous moments (like the street punk dude in the bus played by the same actor from ST IV) but the whole thing ended up feeling cynical. I think part of that, IMO, is the time period they chose when going back in time because even though at the end the heroes save the day and the timeline gets restored we all know that soon after World War III will start so their victory feels bittersweet.

Also, the whole reason for going back in time was because Q transported them to an alternate timeline, saving them from being destroyed in the Stargazer explosion. And Q's reasoning was to help Picard finally deal with his mother's suicide when he was a child.

Season 2 was a convoluted mess, but I loved seeing Q again. Season 3 is worse. Hardly any Q. Season 1 has the easiest plot to follow, and was actually dealing with issues beyond Picard himself.

 

[Danja]

Yeah, that was probably Mr. Stinky Pants. He was quite insistent that anything post-gene death was not Star Trek. He also considered Star Trek TOS to TMP to be pure Star Trek with anything after TMP more like Star Trek "lite".

Including TNG?

 

[Citiprime]

I think the Ent-D bridge excitement will last about as long as people thought PT Cruisers were nifty, 20 years ago.

The Enterprise-D and E bridges have always stood out to me because they’re the only ones that aren’t based in grays and blacks. It’s like Starfleet only went with the option for brown leather interiors twice.

 

[Ovation]

The Enterprise-D and E bridges have always stood out to me because they’re the only ones that aren’t based in grays and blacks. It’s like Starfleet only went with the option for brown leather interiors twice.

Well, the fine Corinthian leather shop went out of business. It happens.

 

[Tallguy]

I think the Ent-D bridge excitement will last about as long as people thought PT Cruisers were nifty, 20 years ago.

I miss my PT Cruiser.

 

[Lord Garth]

The Enterprise-D and E bridges have always stood out to me because they’re the only ones that aren’t based in grays and blacks. It’s like Starfleet only went with the option for brown leather interiors twice.

The Discovery's bridge is bronze.

But otherwise, I agree with your point.

 

[Lord Garth]

Seems like once they changed the Titan-A to the Enterprise-G, the interior color scheme was repainted to copper. "Let's ignore what the F did because it was a Fail, and go back to something along the lines of the D and E style!"

 

[Dee1891]

If I'm not entitled to complain about Star Trek then what am I even HERE for?!?

I agree. We should all be entitled to express our opinions on Trek and other shows and movies.

 

[Tuskin38]

I agree. We should all be entitled to express our opinions on Trek and other shows and movies.

No one says you can't.

 

[Lord Garth]

Including TNG?

He hated TNG. He called it "Roddenberry's Revenge" (since the films were taken away from GR). He views TMP as Gene's Definitive Star Trek, TOS as its roots, and TNG as Gene's weaker, "later years" project.

I feel a similar way actually, in that regard. During TOS, when Gene Roddenberry was first creating it, they were making it up as they went along. TMP was after all of TOS had been made, there was a decade to reflect on it, and Star Trek had an actual budget. Early-TNG is where Gene Roddenberry let his idea of what Star Trek should be get in the way of the actual execution of it. Which is why I think TNG became better after he wasn't as involved.

 

[Tallguy]

He hated TNG. He called it "Roddenberry's Revenge" (since the films were taken away from GR). He views TMP as Gene's Definitive Star Trek, TOS as its roots, and TNG as Gene's weaker, "later years" project.

Nothing controversial about THAT!

I feel a similar way actually, in that regard. During TOS, when Gene Roddenberry was first creating it, they were making it up as they went along. TMP was after all of TOS had been made, there was a decade to reflect on it, and Star Trek had an actual budget. Early-TNG is where Gene Roddenberry let his idea of what Star Trek should be get in the way of the actual execution of it. Which is why I think TNG became better after he wasn't as involved.

Wow. That's very well put.