Spoilers Red Alert. Images from the Finale are leaking online. Get off twitter, reddit, and youtube ASAP.

[urbandk]

I don't really care about much of the ridiculous over the top fan service the reviewer mentions. That stuff irritates me but is not a deal breaker.

What's more concerning is something the reviewer touches on that has bugged me all season. S1 and S2 had something to say; they pushed the story forward and seemed to care about star trek's *legacy* of being a show that has a message that resonates with the real world.

This season has no message. None of this matters, except in a navel gazing stereotyped bad cover version of someone's adolescent trekkie wet dream.

If they make more trek like this, count me out.

 

[NCC-73515]

Odd that there's no new episode thread yet

 

[fireproof78]

This season has no message.

Sure there is: don't get promoted. Don't change ships and family.

 

[urbandk]

Sure there is: don't get promoted. Don't change ships and family.

Never turn your back on a queen

 

[Ronin'sCreamyCandle]

Spoiler clips are around online for episode 10, so please be careful guys.

 

[Ronin'sCreamyCandle]

What are 'mainstream sites'?

Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit.

 

[fireproof78]

So mainstream I don't see it.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

For myself, I attempted a second rewatch of this season and I found myself becoming bored and falling asleep. The mystery is one of the things that kept me intrigued, and frustrated, about this season. Knowing the answers, there is not much there for me to see.

I have seen episodes of the first and second season multiple times. There was more there than the mystery. I did not like much of either season, but there was something substantial there. This season feels superficial to me.

I believe what the reviewer has said. There is a sentence of his that I agree with wholeheartedly. I know for myself that I am watching less and less of the things I used to loved watching for this very reason.

Practically everything I watch feels like a consumer product, designed to satisfy the desires of a pre-sold audience rather than to say anything or to create anything beyond demand for more of itself.

 

[Beyerstein]

Spoiler

I'm fine with them renaming the Titan

 

[Lord Garth]

snip

My take on this spoilery information.

Spoiler

"The Titan is renamed Enterprise"

I'm not too crazy about that, but whatever.

Spoiler

"with Seven as captain"

No surprise there.

Spoiler

"Jack is given a commission as ensign"

Hmmm.

Spoiler

"Sidney is promoted"

Okay.

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"and Q is in the mid credits scene"

Hmmm.

 

[Ennex]

My take on this spoilery information.

Spoiler

"The Titan is renamed Enterprise"

I'm not too crazy about that, but whatever.

Spoiler

"with Seven as captain"

No surprise there.

Spoiler

"Jack is given a commission as ensign"

Hmmm.

Spoiler

"Sidney is promoted"

Okay.

Spoiler

"and Q is in the mid credits scene"

Hmmm.

I just realized what would make me ok with this - if Riker is promoted to Admiral and it's "his ship".

 

[gweeps]

My take on this spoilery information.

Spoiler

"The Titan is renamed Enterprise"

I'm not too crazy about that, but whatever.

Spoiler

"with Seven as captain"

No surprise there.

Spoiler

"Jack is given a commission as ensign"

Hmmm.

Spoiler

"Sidney is promoted"

Okay.

Spoiler

"and Q is in the mid credits scene"

Hmmm.

I couldn't resist looking. All this stuff I'd already heard speculated about, but I'm still excited to see what actually happens.

 

[Tuskin38]

Spoiler

How much smaller than the F is the Titan-A? It would be the first time a new Enterprise is smaller, or at least shorter.

While the -E is longer than the -D it’s smaller in volume

 

[Spike730]

These spoilers are bullshit.

 

[Magistos]

These spoilers are...welp, let's see how they execute it. Then I'll judge.

 

[Campe]

Sure there is: don't get promoted. Don't change ships and family.

Star Trek Generations did it better. Dammit! That’s the second time in two days I’ve said that.

 

[Phily B]

I don't really care about much of the ridiculous over the top fan service the reviewer mentions. That stuff irritates me but is not a deal breaker.

What's more concerning is something the reviewer touches on that has bugged me all season. S1 and S2 had something to say; they pushed the story forward and seemed to care about star trek's *legacy* of being a show that has a message that resonates with the real world.

This season has no message. None of this matters, except in a navel gazing stereotyped bad cover version of someone's adolescent trekkie wet dream.

If they make more trek like this, count me out.

A very very strange point of view. Since when do seasons of Star Trek have to have a message? What was DS9's "message"? Genocide is ok actually? This obsession with "the message" is strange. It doesn't matter if it has a "message" if the story is nonsensical, stupid and just flat out terrible. Especially in case of Picard S1 where it seemed like "the message" (whatever that was) was the most important aspect, so they had to create a Federation/Starfleet that felt nothing like the one we had seen for the past few decades.

 

[urbandk]

Star Trek Generations did it better. Dammit! That’s the second time in two days I’ve said that.

I liked Generations, especially all that Picard family Xmas stuff! Malcolm Mcdowell hamming it up, on the other hand, I can do without.

 

[urbandk]

A very very strange point of view. Since when do seasons of Star Trek have to have a message? What was DS9's "message"? Genocide is ok actually?

You're picking DS9 as an example of Trek not having a meaningful message? No disrespect intended, but this choice betrays a surprisingly superficial understanding of Trek.

Besides the fact that allegorical social commentary was and is a key feature of Trek since TOS, and, if you pardon the conceit, "Gene's vision," DS9 alone explicitly explored Afrofuturism, religious extremism, ontological fluidity, race and civil rights in "utopia," gender fluidity, representation, when and if terrorism is permissible, etc...

This barely scratches the surface of the themes considered in individual episodes.

IMO, Picard S3 betrays Trek's vision, and while I can enjoy it the same way I enjoyed ST09, I'm not looking forward to more of it.

 

[God's Starship]

The finale could be bad, could be great who knows. When it comes to spoilers or plot leaks, it ALWAYS sounds bad on paper, every single time. I still remember when clips and summaries of Avengers Endgame leaked online and all the fans were freaking out bc the movie was gonna be a disaster. And we see what happened once people saw it lol.