As someone who started the Bond Franchise with Goldeneye, I didn't mind them keeping Dame Judi Dench as M. She was an amazing M.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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As someone who started the Bond Franchise with Goldeneye, I didn't mind them keeping Dame Judi Dench as M. She was an amazing M.
Yes, please do that.
If George Lucas took Star Wars to CBS, it would have come out Star Trek.
Obi-Wan Spockobi and the young Captain Warp Rider. Just kidding but that is the point of time we are in right now. Space adventure is seen through the lens of Star Trek.
One of the early fan films came out and people saw The Corbomite Maneuver. That's a testimony to the skill of the fan studio because it was an out take first written in the acid drop Heavy Metal universe.
Nothing wrong with a little spiked Tranya, it's what makes fan films fun.
Don't be silly.
Enough people like it and enjoy seeing it continue. Rather than wishing it dead, isn’t it better to simply discontinue following it?
I always find it odd when people think like this. “It should go away because I don’t like it” when you could easily just ignore it and allow others to enjoy it.
Yeah, let's not end a worthwhile fictional universe just because some of it isn't up to our individual standards. Baby with the bath water is too common an attitude with the fandom.
"I'm not getting the stories I want so to Hell with the whole thing." Very IDIC.
"I'm not getting the stories I want so to Hell with the whole thing." Very IDIC.
Well, it is the controversial opinion thread so...all in?
No this could be good.
What if they produced 5 spin offs of the ark next year, in the extendad ark universe, that cost the same (5 series x 13 episodes) to make as 1 episode of Discovery?
Seriously.
Fuck quality.
I want volume.
We got to do something while waiting for the next exciting episode of.... ?
The gov't cut into our bandwidth for 5 g so streaming is out of the question for a while. It's a trade off I'll take for living on the mountain.
There's still one episode of Picard Season 3 to go, but though I've enjoyed it I'm going to say that I think Picard Season 1 is far superior to 3.
It's only the past few weeks Ive realised that there's a huge element of the fandom that I just don't relate to at all. Which is fine. I've enjoyed PIC S3 while at the same time finding the overall writing a bit rubbish (although still a masterpiece compared to S2). Yet so many fans are in utter HEAVEN and are genuinely in rapture over all the continuity, cameos and callbacks. Personally, I'm concerned that this is all Trek has to offer now; nostalgia over substance. Doctor Who went that way in the 1980's and was dead for two decades afterward--in catering to the fans (most of whom seemed to hate it anyway), they completely forgot to try to appeal to the mainstreamers too, and to attempt to entice new fans. I think that's always a danger. I want Trek to look forward, to pioneer, and not trade good coherent stories with some kind of philosophical undertone for cheap fanwankery. I sense that's what we're likely to be in for from now on though.
I personally think the time might be coming for a hard reboot; something wherein all the old rules are thrown out. Find some talented writers who can do something wild, fresh, compelling and free. Maybe it would work and maybe it wouldn't, but I like it when Star Trek takes risks rather than plays it safe.
Season 2 is my favourite and held the most promise. Though I didn't expect what they did with Q...
I liked season 2 from start to finish, with the only major exception being the rush to write all the original characters off the show (but season three is just as guilty of that, and even season 1 heavily underused Laris and Zhaban). It's easily the best season of the show for me.
Oh, and I never bought the Raffi/Seven relationship. Smacked of trying to be different and fell flat. Now, Q basically admitting he loved Picard? Yessir.
Also, If they were gonna kill Elnor they should've kept him dead. Q should have restored Picard to his human body.
Lastly, I also never bought the redo of Voyage Home's romance with Rios and that doctor lady.
Yeah, I have lots of quibbles with Season 2. But goddamn John de Lancie made it worth watching. And Orla Brady. Alison Pill and Annie Wersching were pretty good, too.
Also, If they were gonna kill Elnor they should've kept him dead. Q should have restored Picard to his human body.
Lastly, I also never bought the redo of Voyage Home's romance with Rios and that doctor lady.
Yeah, I have lots of quibbles with Season 2. But goddamn John de Lancie made it worth watching. And Orla Brady. Alison Pill and Annie Wersching were pretty good, too.
That is certainly an opinion fit for this thread.
My personal dislike for Pic, especially the first two seasons, aside...what I really fault it for from a non personal-taste view of things is how completely pointless Elnor and his identity as a Romulan was for the series as a whole. He might as well not have been there.
Which really sucks, because aside from Seven he was the only character I was even remotely interested in.
Which really sucks, because aside from Seven he was the only character I was even remotely interested in.
Yeah. I liked a couple of the others more than him, but no one was as ridiculously wasted as Elnor. The dude got less focus and less story importance than Travis Mayweather for christs sake. DS9 had not just secondary but even tertiary characters that got more to do than Elnor.
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While I wouldn't say "far superior", I agree that S1 was better than S3 so far.
Raffi was a character I originally had great interest in, and it seemed like they were trying to set up a meaningful arc for her. But after the first half of S1 they apparently lost interest and dropped her, and after that they didn't even try anymore.
They copped out of the same-gender relationship by having it happen entirely off-screen between seasons, and all we get after that is lazily written bickering between exes at inappropriate times when they're trying to Save The Future. Other than that, her role is mostly reduced to the hot-headed opposing opinion whenever they feel the need to have an argument. And she's a conspiracy theorist with drug issues. That's the character, we're done here.
You could argue that's what she was from the beginning, but she actually got some meaningful screen time and character development. After S1 she's entirely reduced to that with zero interest in further development, it's just incredibly flat and lazy. Even I, who apparently had more interest than most in her in the beginning, just roll my eyes whenever she appears again. Might as well not be there at all. One of PIC's greatest disappointments for me.
Raffi was a character I originally had great interest in, and it seemed like they were trying to set up a meaningful arc for her. But after the first half of S1 they apparently lost interest and dropped her, and after that they didn't even try anymore.
They copped out of the same-gender relationship by having it happen entirely off-screen between seasons, and all we get after that is lazily written bickering between exes at inappropriate times when they're trying to Save The Future. Other than that, her role is mostly reduced to the hot-headed opposing opinion whenever they feel the need to have an argument. And she's a conspiracy theorist with drug issues. That's the character, we're done here.
You could argue that's what she was from the beginning, but she actually got some meaningful screen time and character development. After S1 she's entirely reduced to that with zero interest in further development, it's just incredibly flat and lazy. Even I, who apparently had more interest than most in her in the beginning, just roll my eyes whenever she appears again. Might as well not be there at all. One of PIC's greatest disappointments for me.
It has objectively not run out of steam.
That just means you have good taste.
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