Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Airmandan]

So looking at the fleet composition shots and descriptions, we were told the whole reason for the titan design was Starfleet going back to older proven designs and updating them. Yet all the ships in the fleet were the upgraded TNG variants. I didn’t see anything that resembled the Constitution-III variant or the Duderstadt class

 

[NCC-73515]

Friends please!

There are starship designs to nitpick.

And the D has its own thread

 

[Macintosh]

Isn't that based on Diogo Vincenzi's Kusanagi-class? (An incredibly pretty starship in my opinion.)

Just to follow up on this because I thought people might like to see it, Diogo Vincenzi just uploaded a video of the Kusanagi-class to his Youtube channel. She is very pretty indeed:

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[somebuddyX]

The Zheng He is such an odd design to me. I kind of hate it but I also think if it were just some random one of many different ships like the bunch that turned up in First Contact or the bunch that were blown up in "The Best of Both Worlds" it would at least be forgettable. It's like someone punched it in the head a couple of time and then threw it into a trash compactor. And yet I still like some of the components. Maybe if someone's made a kitbash of it using the same parts they could make it look good.

 

[cooleddie74]

To me the external appearance of the Zheng He is just fine and seems like the perfect evolution of starships we'd seen in FC and on DS9. It's just her scale that seems ungainly and wrong for the way she looks. Almost the size of a Galaxy-class? Ehhh.

But fine, I'll roll with it.

 

[fireproof78]

The Zheng He us still my favorite in Picard, with the Titan a close second. Depends on the day.

 

[Markonian]

A quick comparison between the series bridge of the E-D and the new one...

I thought building elaborate sets was a lost art, given how modern Trek shows rely on bottle shows and redressed real life locations.

If craftspeople are able to build THIS, how did we end up with the bridges of the Stargazer, Discoprise, Titan-A?

 

[Finn]

I thought building elaborate sets was a lost art, given how modern Trek shows rely on bottle shows and redressed real life locations.

If craftspeople are able to build THIS, how did we end up with the bridges of the Stargazer, Discoprise, Titan-A?

Modern? I thought they have always redressed locations and sets?

 

[fireproof78]

If craftspeople are able to build THIS, how did we end up with the bridges of the Stargazer, Discoprise, Titan-A?

Because they look amazing. Sorry but the D bridge purs me to sleep.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I thought building elaborate sets was a lost art, given how modern Trek shows rely on bottle shows and redressed real life locations.

If craftspeople are able to build THIS, how did we end up with the bridges of the Stargazer, Discoprise, Titan-A?

Those bridges might look better if they had a better take at lighting.

 

[valkyrie013]

The new Zheng He, without the Hoover deflector, is nice. but there is a sour taste after the Copy Pasta from S1. Happy they fixed that.

 

[Markonian]

Because they look amazing. Sorry but the D bridge purs me to sleep.

It’s the newer bridges that would make be sleepy with all the mood lighting.

 

[Dukhat]

So looking at the fleet composition shots and descriptions, we were told the whole reason for the titan design was Starfleet going back to older proven designs and updating them. Yet all the ships in the fleet were the upgraded TNG variants. I didn’t see anything that resembled the Constitution-III variant or the Duderstadt class

“Starfleet going back to older proven designs and updating them” was never canonically stated in the show as to why the Titan looks like it does. That was just behind-the-scenes speculation. There is no good answer as to why the Titan 90% resembles a ship from 120 years ago, much less why its class name isn’t ‘Shangri-La II’ instead of ‘Constitution III.’ And no good reason why every other ship in Starfleet looks like something that was designed in the latter half of the 24th century but the Titan doesn’t, even though it’s contemporaneous with all the other ships.

To me the external appearance of the Zheng He is just fine and seems like the perfect evolution of starships we'd seen in FC and on DS9. It's just her scale that seems ungainly and wrong for the way she looks. Almost the size of a Galaxy-class? Ehhh.

But fine, I'll roll with it.

Yeah, I agree that the Inquiry should be about the size of the Intrepid class, not the Sovereign class.

 

[gaghyogi49]

He probably won’t recognize the new STO ships.

What makes you think so?

 

[Tuskin38]

If craftspeople are able to build THIS, how did we end up with the bridges of the Stargazer, Discoprise, Titan-A?

Because it's what they were told to build?

What makes you think so?

In all seriousness I wasn't sure how up to do you were with STO designs. Sorry

 

[Kaelef]

“Starfleet going back to older proven designs and updating them” was never canonically stated in the show as to why the Titan looks like it does. That was just behind-the-scenes speculation. There is no good answer as to why the Titan 90% resembles a ship from 120 years ago, much less why its class name isn’t ‘Shangri-La II’ instead of ‘Constitution III.’ And no good reason why every other ship in Starfleet looks like something that was designed in the latter half of the 24th century but the Titan doesn’t, even though it’s contemporaneous with all the other ships.

There have been so many references to the original series movie era in Picard S3, especially in the first few episodes. I'm a fan of that era, so I wouldn't complain much if the references made sense. The design of the Titan clearly doesn't. I noticed even the phaser Jack is using in one of the most recent episodes is very much a modern/updated TOS design rather than a modern/updated TNG design.

 

[Racefuel]

TOS era phasers made a few appearances in TNG at least

 

[DaveyNY]

noticed even the phaser Jack is using in one of the most recent episodes is very much a modern/updated TOS design rather than a modern/updated TNG design.

Jack's phaser is made from whatever he could scrape together while out scrounging around the galaxy.
It's definitely NOT a standard issue.

It's highly likely that old TOS phasers are a lot more abundant in the back alleys of the assorted planets he has visited than modern TNG weapons.

 

[Tuskin38]

I noticed even the phaser Jack is using in one of the most recent episodes is very much a modern/updated TOS design rather than a modern/updated TNG design.

He's been using that since Episode 1. We first see it when he leads Riker onto the Eleos' bridge.
It's a kitbash of the TOS phaser and the ST5/6 assault phaser.

 

[Tomalak]

Imagine thinking the SNW sets aren’t elaborate or require considerable craftsmanship.

https://filmandfurniture.com/2022/0...midcentury-design-with-scifi-futurism-part-1/