I love Mike, Jay, and Rich. But they are hardly "tastemaker".
The Terry Matalas as Star Trek Showrunner Petition
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Again, they have a pretty wide reach. Their last review has over 750k views. If they really like the end of the season, and know about the petition, that could potentially move the needle on it in a quite favorable way.
They have a wider reach and influence than any of the other Trek reviewer websites and channels.
Look at the multiple million view counts and metrics on many of their previous Trek reviews.
Social Media, and retweets for #StarTrekLegacy will probably go the furthest.
Ultimately, I'm skeptical this will happen now though, even if fan demand is strong.
Could Paramount even finally support a third live-action Trek show in it's current state?
Would Kurtzman want to greenlight a Terry Matalas series that goes against the 'Kurtzman Trek' brand?
Likely not. Kurtzman will probably keep pushing his Section 31 baby forward.
Terry said this about Star Trek Legacy:
Look, I love this time period in Star Trek, the 25th century. I always view it as the present day in Star Trek, for me. It’s where we all left off. And the way we leave this season is a passing of the torch from the last generation to the next… I would certainly love [the spin-off] to happen. We certainly leave it so that you can do that.
Boy, wouldn’t you want to check in with the Klingon Empire? Wouldn’t you want to check in with Deep Space Nine and The Doctor [from Voyager] and everything that went on with the Berman-verse? So that’s kind of where I see is to explore the galaxy and sort of get back to the Next Gen roots of storytelling is what I would see as a kind of version of Star Trek I’d like to see, with this group of characters that we’re seeing. I don’t want to talk too much about them although I think you could guess as to who I would like to see. And by the way, I think that includes a great deal of some of these legacy characters who I think have never been better, Jonathan Frakes being one of them… I mean come on, guys, he’s amazing!
https://trekmovie.com/2023/04/03/te...-3-ends-setting-up-star-trek-legacy-spin-off/
The "Berman-verse" .... yeah I have my doubts Kurtzman will want that.
Kurtzman's "brand" now includes SNW. That works for me.
I'm not missing the "modern Trek" era. I don't miss the 24th century, much as it was nice to visit for a bit. Berman and Braga were spoken of online in those days with all the warmth and fuzzy affection with which folks now target Kurtzman.
I'm not missing the "modern Trek" era. I don't miss the 24th century, much as it was nice to visit for a bit. Berman and Braga were spoken of online in those days with all the warmth and fuzzy affection with which folks now target Kurtzman.
Why not?
Member Berries: The Series.
SNW is in the middle of its run (S3 is supposed to begin filming in May).
What's going to replace it? I see it doing four seasons at most (five to tie with Disco). Anything more and it starts getting expensive.
He might pair Matalas with someone else (Kirsten Beyer? An outsider?)
Nothing makes it to air without going through Kurtzman first.
What exactly is this "Kurtzman brand"? He's done DISCO, which according to some is far off the Trekking path. Picard, which brings back beloved characters. SNW a throwback to episodic TV, Lower Deck a half hour animated sit com and Prodigy an animated kids show. I don't think he'd object to a show about Legacy characters. He's already done two.
Not exactly. Braga has admitted to being burned out by the end of Voyager's sixth season, but he was initially inspired by the creative opportunities Enterprise's prequel setting provided. That is until UPN stepped in and told him and Berman their ideas "weren't Star Trek" and forced them to turn the show in the TNG-Voyager Lite show it ended up being.
Braga wrote some good stuff for Enterprise. He still had some good, [somewhat] original ideas and his scripts were generally pretty tight, even if a little bland and safe.
So far, Picard season three has been so unoriginal it almost seems like it's proud of just how hackneyed it is. And the scripts are a bloated, flatulent mess.
So far, Picard season three has been so unoriginal it almost seems like it's proud of just how hackneyed it is. And the scripts are a bloated, flatulent mess.
You know, I think this highlights my issues with Picard. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the series for what it is, nostalgia bait.
It hits you over the head with something once or twice an episode. You remember the "good old days," you move on. Wash/Rinse/Repeat.
And it's fine for this final season/swan song for the TNG cast, but the more I keep hearing from those who keep spouting the "Star Trek: Legacy" talking points, the less interested I get. Especially when it seems like it's going to be "Member Berries: The Series".
Remember Deep Space Nine? Remember The Doctor? Remember General Martok? Just feels like kinda..... dull.
To me, Star Trek has always been about exploring strange new worlds. Boldly going..... and all that. This "Legacy" series just feels like boldly going where we've already gone. I think this all further highlights why I think Strange New Worlds is the superior show.
Yes, obviously we know how Pike is going to end up. We know all about Spock and the Enterprise, etc. But they still manage to bring something new to the table with nearly every episode.
We've gotten new species, cultures, planets, etc. We've further expanded on cultures we knew very little about from previous series. We even had a little reflection on our own social issues, for old time sake. That, to me, is Star Trek.
Again, I enjoy Picard S3. But I enjoy it as an epilogue. I don't think an entire series that relies entirely on nostalgia will do anything but stagnate the franchise. It certainly won't bring in new fans. And we older fans are certainly not getting any younger.
Say what you will about the likes of Discovery, Prodigy and even Strange New Worlds, but they definitely brought in new fans, and that is what the franchise needs.
Serialized or non-serialized, it doesn't matter. Just bring us something NEW to explore!
I went back and watched a bit of season 1 of Picard the other week. While I can't say I liked how the season ended, or some of the plot points, it was an interesting idea seeing a Jean-Luc Picard in the twilight of his life, doing what needs to be done without the prestige or resources he once possessed. Hell, I loathed season 2, but found the themes of this very old man still seeing himself as a little boy longing for his mother touching, and unique to TV and Trek.
Sadly, I don't see that type of Trek returning any time soon. Pretty sure we'll get nothing but Starfleet/Starship-based shows with nostalgia nods for the foreseeable future.
Sadly, I don't see that type of Trek returning any time soon. Pretty sure we'll get nothing but Starfleet/Starship-based shows with nostalgia nods for the foreseeable future.
Life is not always going to be "Happy Happy! Joy Joy! Let's pick lichen samples on Zeta Four!"
There's room for all manner of stories within Trek. If the Titan and her crew are going to be running for dear life from the Dominion, there's not going to be much time to smell the roses.
Picard HAS explored new ground (thematically, emotionally, etc.).
After Starfleet Academy fails in 2 short seasons perhaps they will realize and fund more Star Trek like Picard season 3. The buzz around this season is incredible and s3 has done more for Star Trek than 4 seasons of Discovery, a show which heavily divides the fanbase.
There's no indication whatsoever that Picard S3 has had any significant impact outside the hardcore fanbase, or has been any particular commercial success (which is all that will matter from Paramount's perspective).
Disco got five seasons and at least one spin-off, and launched the revival of Trek which is continuing to this day (including Picard, incidentally). The impact of Picard S3 at this stage cannot come close, and it remains to be seen if it will have any long-term impact.
Nor is it possible to readily replicate this season, which depends very heavily on bringing back a full cast from a prior show. This was only really possible as a throwaway season - as the third and last in the series, it didn't need mainstream appeal. It'd fast lose its novelty if it was continued with the TNG cast, and the other series are nowhere near as popular or marketable (since the fanbase was divided long before Disco came along).
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I don't understand this 'Kurtzman vs Matalas' nonsense. It's childish, puerile and petty. You carry on as if Matalas stormed on the paramount lot and just greenlit and produced Season 3 himself without any input from anyone else. Who exactly do you think chose Matalas in the first place? Kurtzman is in charge of Trek, and he is the one who Matalas reports to. Kurtzman would have known all about what Season 3 would entail and was clearly fine with it given we're all now watching it as Matalas intended. But please, by all means continue stoking the fires of fan division and hatred.
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They have? The first 4 episodes were basically a "Wrath of Khan" rehash. Granted, we got the "space babies". That was one of the better thing we've had this season.
Now we're smack dab in the middle of a "conspiracy to destroy the Federation" storyline. It's been done. We've got characters returning from death, again.
Like I said, I enjoy the series, I'm not a vulcan. I teared up at a few points. But don't kid yourself, it's hardly been the most original show on the air. It's relied 100% on nostalgia to get this far.
Trek isn't life. Turning a story about spaceships and ray guns into a ruminative dirge doesn't automatically give it depth.
Anyway, these characters had a proper swan song in "All Good Things." Buh-bye!
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