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^ It was established several times he had extensive martial arts experience, unfortunately we didn't get to really see that too often, either. This particular scene is from The Fight and Chakotay wasn't exactly in prime (fighting) condition there.
I always liked his bath'lething scene in Barge of the dead , unfortunately that only happened in B'Elanna's head
I always liked his bath'lething scene in Barge of the dead , unfortunately that only happened in B'Elanna's head
"Hearing but not seeing" is an all-too-frequent consequence of a broadcast television budget (especially one chiefly funneled towards computer-generated imagery). Still, when it comes to the martial arts of Star Trek, I will always love the palm strike.
That was a fun read. The Mighty Oddish approves.
Well, it would probably more be:
Harry takes a swing at Tuvok. Tuvok easily sidesteps the punch and pinches Harry into unconsciousness.
Sickbay, 15 minutes later. Harry's lying on a biobed. His eyes slowly open.
EMH (sounding pleased): "Ah, lieutenant. You're awake."
HARRY: "Don't you mean 'ensign'?"
EMH: "Not anymore. The captain left this for you."
He hands Harry a hollow pip.
HARRY: "But... how... I just attacked Tuvok! Shouldn't I be in the brig?"
EMH: "Don't be silly. Don't you remember that Tuvok attacked the captain back in the affair with Mr. Suder? Or Mr. Paris slugged Commander Chakotay?"
HARRY (it dawns on him): "Or B'Elanna beat up Carey."
EMH: "Exactly. Captain Janeway has Klingon blood, several generations back. So, if you want a promotion on her ship, you have to assault a superior officer."
HARRY (sticks the pip to his collar): "Right."
It's generally considered canonical that Vulcans have strength well beyond the human norm.
In addition to the answers given, he kills a holographic Neelix with his bare hands (hand, actually). And pretty easily, I might add.
And the double-fist punch-volleyball bump combo.
I like that, too!
I know. I was just wondering which scenes (if any) in Voyager provided direct visual evidence of this.
I have a heart problem so I'm on blood thinners, which means that I have less oxygen in my blood travelling slower to everything that wants oxygen. I am literally making myself weaker to avoid important parts of my body from exploding.
I imagine Meditation and logic does the same thing for Vulcans.
(Maybe they need medication too? Something in the water they don't even know that they are taking constantly?)
Vulcans might be twice as sane a Romulans because they have a fraction of the roid rage, and strength... It might also explain their tiny sex drive if it takes seven years for enough blood to get to their pene, for it to be useful.
The palm strike can actually be an effective open hand attack move in martial arts and defensive tactics.
The bottom ridge of the palm is a surprisingly solid striking surface, and can do just as much damage as a closed fist when utilized properly (some studies have shown that a palm strike actually can produce more energy than a punch)[citation needed], with far less risk of injury to the striker's own hand.
The double fisted side kick off a wall technique is a little more open for debate.
Breaking a few bones in your fingers every time you hit someone sucks.
The palm strike can actually be an effective open hand attack move in martial arts and defensive tactics.
The bottom ridge of the palm is a surprisingly solid striking surface, and can do just as much damage as a closed fist when utilized properly (some studies have shown that a palm strike actually can produce more energy than a punch)[citation needed], with far less risk of injury to the striker's own hand.
The double fisted side kick off a wall technique is a little more open for debate.
It's a matter of matching the striking surface to the targeted body part. A fist might be better for the solar plexus or kidneys, a palm might be better for under the nose or chin. A chop is good for the trachea, side of the neck, or bridge of the nose. If you're hitting the temples, go with an elbow if you can. And a finger jab will do a number on the target's eyes.
I agre with what you have written but I still think that it was a big mistake to make that retro series.That decision ruined Star Trek and we are still suffering from it.
I totally agree with you have written about TOS but I can't stand Discovery and most of what's been made after VOY, not even Picard which in my opinion is made 20 years too late. That series should have been made after ENT and led straight back to the 24th century. As it is now, it's just another boring 2020's doom-and-gloom series.
What I dislike most when it comest to all those retro series and movies made after ENT are that they don't look like TOS or pre-TOS but instead look like something completly different. More like some "Star Trek from hell" where Kirk and other Star Trek characters have been transferred to some dark doom-and-gloom universe where everything which existed in the real Star Trek universe is slowly destroyed (Vulcan, Romulus etc.)
Not to mention that I find the characters boring, the acting sub-class (compared to Shatner, Nimoy, Stewart etc.) and the stories and writing downright bad, Discovery is actually worse and more boring than Stargate Universe.
the Star Wars prequels were actually good because they lead up to what happened in the three first produced movies and the scenario looked the same too. As for Batman, I've left that behind because what happens in those movies doesn't make sense. I liked the forts two movies but then it all went wrong with too many different actors messing up the characters. I mean, The Joker (excellently played by Jack Nicholson) is killed off (a stupid move from the producers) and then The Joker comes back in a later movie looking like some third-rate punk rocker with bad make-up. I gave up after that.
However, I haven't watched Strange New Worlds yet. It might be a decent series even if I guess that it can't be as good as the original TOS.
What I would like to see is a new series in the 24th century. But in that case a series without the typical 2020's doom-and-gloom which currently ruins ALL TV-series and movies.
In my opinion, people need to get past this "it will never be as good as this era" of Star Trek because that's a complete and total dead end. It's setting you up for failure and disappointment, and the constant haranguing of the doom and gloom 20s (like humanity never had it before; please...I've heard about the end of the world for 30 years.) Instead, to apprach a series on it's own terms and see if you like it will make it a way more positive experience than "Well, it will never be like TOS."
Nothing was like TOS. TNG wasn't like TOS! TNG sucked at first because it tried to disconnect itself yet used TOS plot points without the charm of the TOS cast. When it found it's footing and became it's own thing then it worked for many.
Man, I will never know how people find the prequels leading in to the OT. The PT feels way more depressing and annoying and makes the OT characters look bad, especially Obi-Wan.
Yes, yes. The 20s suck. Life was so much better back when...
It would be nice if people thought, "It probably won't be like TOS...but TOS had its share of problems too, and let's see if I can learn to like a new show for what it is rather than what it isn't."
Even the TOS films weren't like TOS.
I don't know how so many TOS fans can conveniently forgot the idea of IDIC, and more broadly keeping an open mind and striving for optimism.
If someone's going to go into a TV show expecting not to like it, I'd just as soon that person not watch the show. I had my doubts about both Lower Decks and Prodigy, and thus far, if I haven't been blown away, I've at least been pleasantly surprised. Really, Picard (S2 in particular) is the only newer show I've found to be disappointing...but if you enjoyed it, hey, that's great!
I'm also done with the critique that newer Trek is "doom and gloom" or whatever.DS9 had a damn war for its last three seasons, but I don't hear that criticism leveled at that show. I said it before and I'll say it again: DISCO S4 was more true to the ideals of Trek: keeping an open mind and striving to keep violence only as a last resort than any Trek I'd seen in a very long time, and if one is going to continue to accuse newer Trek of neverending negativity in light of that fact, then I have no time for that person.
Even the TOS films weren't like TOS.
I don't know how so many TOS fans can conveniently forgot the idea of IDIC, and more broadly keeping an open mind and striving for optimism.
If someone's going to go into a TV show expecting not to like it, I'd just as soon that person not watch the show. I had my doubts about both Lower Decks and Prodigy, and thus far, if I haven't been blown away, I've at least been pleasantly surprised. Really, Picard (S2 in particular) is the only newer show I've found to be disappointing...but if you enjoyed it, hey, that's great!
I'm also done with the critique that newer Trek is "doom and gloom" or whatever.
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Please.
Indeed. I think it's amazing how smaller the Trek box is when new productions come around. It's why a sibling rivalry.
...and thank you.
Seriously speaking, however, it has enjoyed a second renaissance and shot up to the top of many lists for reasons I consider antithetical to Star Trek.
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