Jack Crusher's Age

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  1. ToddCam

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    Those are Picard's ages, not Patrick Stewart's (he's in his 80s I believe). The whole thing was me being facetious.
     
  2. ToddCam

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    Heavy drinking can prematurely age you, it's true.

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  3. Ovation

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    Stewart was in his late 40s when he started and Picard was in his early 60s, IIRC. The age thing is really overblown here.
     
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  4. Sketcher

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    Patrick Stewart was younger when he started TNG then Will Wheaton is today. Not that that really means anything with this discussion... it's just weird to think about.
     
  5. SithHappens

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    It doesn't matter and I think most of the comments about his age are tongue in cheek, he is 34 and looks 34, but it has happened for ever, I don't think anyone believed luke Perry was 18 when he was in 90210.

    Patrick Stewart playing an older character was more believable as its easier to believe someone looks younger than their years anyway
     
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    I love how a guy in his mid 30s is playing a character in his mid 20s and that they make him play a younger version of that character by putting a hat on him.
     
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  7. Tuskin38

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    They also deaged him digitally
     
  8. Mirror Tuvix

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    Fantastic thread. Great discussion. Let's keep it going. :techman::techman::techman:
     
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  10. Deks

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    Nemesis happened in 2379.

    2379 - 2400 = 21 years

    I think Picard S3 doesn't take place in 2400 but maybe a couple of years after that. Perhaps the period between 2401-2403

    In this instance, 23/24 years old wouldn't be inaccurate... but I'd dare say that Jack definitely looks older than that (which in fairness could be associated with the life he led).
     
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  11. Iamnotspock

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    It's 2401, confirmed by Terry Matalas and the stardate given in "No Win Scenario". If they'd made Frontier Day the 250th anniversary of, say, the signing of the Coalition of Planets charter, bumping it up to c.2405, there'd be no issue.
     
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  12. Deks

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    Well, that would still make Jack about 22 years old... which isn't too far off 23 or 24.
    Perhaps Jack just didn't want to contradict Picard?
     
  13. Iamnotspock

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    How? Nemesis was 2379. Even if we go with the notion, from the deleted scenes and the novelisation, that Beverly left the Enterprise to head Starfleet Medical again, then Jack's conception took place two months before the film, so he was born in 2379/80 and is, at most, 21 or 22 in 2401 and 16 or 17 in the 10 Forward flashback (yeah, right). If we go with the same scenario but they'd set this season four years later, he'd be 25 or 26 and 21 or 22 in the bar scene, which would be slightly more believable for 34-year-old Ed Speleers to pull off. Or, if we assume that Jean-Luc and Beverly had a relationship in the couple of years after Nemesis (since there's no hint of it in the film, and it would line up better with what The Last Best Hope established about the timeline of the supernova, given Beverly's line about Picard being targeted by assassins angry about Romulan relocation), then Jack would comfortably be 23 or 24, per the dialogue, and 19 or 20 in the flashback. As it is, it's not a huge deal, but it's needlessly convoluted.

    Not sure I buy that.
     
  14. Ovation

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    The needs of the drama outweigh the needs of verisimilitude.
     
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    Graduate Picard may have been doing his Command track courses and met young cadet Crusher in some classes.

    We know he can pass for older. :)
     
  16. Iamnotspock

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    As I said, it's not a huge deal, but the two aren't mutually exclusive, and the issue has nothing to do with the needs of the drama, which wouldn't have been effected by tweaking a stardate.
     
  17. Dar70

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    He was de-aged a bit in that scene....
     
  18. Dar70

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    Why is this bothering so many???? I know plenty of early 20 somethings that looks 30's and the same can be said for young looking 30's.

    Again if people can believe that the Enterprise is now twice its original size in SNW, four nostril Klingons in DISCO and the ridiculous Turbolift interior. THIS WHOLE AGE THING SHOULD BE A PIECE OF CAKE to believe.

    Ed speelers looks perfectly fine in the roll. Despite what anyone says here.
     
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  20. gvn2fly

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    I think that's when she was thinking of telling Picard about Jack (years after he was born) but he was busy with the Romulan relocation efforts.