And Wesley was old enough to choose going with the Traveler. And she seems to blame Picard for that. How is that right?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"
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And Wesley was old enough to choose going with the Traveler. And she seems to blame Picard for that. How is that right?
She didn't directly blame Picard for that, just being among the stars with him.
She said that in the same breath as losing Jack, her husband. She didn't outright say it, but the blame is clearly being put on Picard.
Just because Picard retired doesn't mean he suddenly stopped having enemies who'd want revenge on him.
And yet he was on the vineyard for over a decade without any attempts on his life. None mentioned, anyway. Since we never saw any Starfleet security or other personnel who might act like modern day Secret Service agents for former presidents, I doubt any attempts were made on him.
Either Earth really is that safe, those threats were neutralized, or Beverly overstated the danger. (Or maybe even all of the above.)
No matter how you slice it, she comes off badly here.
Either Earth really is that safe, those threats were neutralized, or Beverly overstated the danger. (Or maybe even all of the above.)
No matter how you slice it, she comes off badly here.
Or, she ran so far, and never looked back, that she didn't know he managed a quiet life. Still comes off badly.
He had what seem to be ex Tal Shiar Romulan staff as his butler and housemaid…
To be fair, we don;t know that for all we know he was fending off enemies on a weekly basis, it just happened off screen
Yeah he was retired for 15 whole years. He had no issues the whole time. I mean come on Beverly you couldn't visit Jean Luc at the vineyard with your love child? I mean even Carol Marcus told Kirk he was a father. She asked Kirk to stay away but she never kept hin totally in the dark about their child. Beverly was dead wrong.
And yet neither of them, when Picard was attacked in season 1 in the house, acted like such a thing happened before.
I don't know if it was intentional or scripted/acted that way, but the whole situation came off as Beverly creeped out by Picard and making up a bunch of lies on why she stayed away from him by demonizing him and distorting his life and events in them completely out of context.
How in the news a younger woman gets pregnant by a rich older guy, she doesn't want to be with him anymore, is horrified that a kid will tie her to him, etc. Or how that Gossip Girl actress told immigration that her children's German father should have his visa revoked and be deported over his business' supposed ties to South American crime, and in the years since as far as I'm aware it's never been proven he was guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever.
I'm going to say that Beverly Crusher pretty much was my teenage crush. Her character is the last person I thought would be that kind of woman, lying and deceiving to keep a child and father separated over basically fabricated and distorted reasons instead of just admitting she's creeped out and not attracted to Picard anymore. I suspected this would be happening going in, but was told to trust Matalas and the writers, etc. that Beverly has some horrific and revelatory reason why she hid Jack etc.
If she really was so bent on Jack's safety, there's NO way she'd have let him live a lawless life on the frontier where he had to turn to crime to survive. Funny how when it comes to her self-important frontier medicine gimmick, Jack's safety suddenly isn't such a big deal anymore. Reminds me of my own mother, willing to use me as a prop or limit life opportunities because she supposedly knows what's best for me, then that all goes out the window and revealed for the sham it was when her own opportunity to boost her ego or feel important comes calling.
Trek's characters used to be people you aspired to be like, not people you wouldn't want in your real life. A lot has changed in Trek, and not for the better.
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Exactly. I mean we saw him opening drapes, walking around checking the grapes with his dog number one, eating lunch with his romulan friends and we know he wrote some boring history book. So yeah he wasn't fending off alien attackers. Maybe picking up number ones poop was the most dangerous thing he did in 15 years.
For a supposed evolved person she's not acting much different than a 21st century person. Selfish and stupid she was. I mean she kept Wesley on the enterprise even after his life was put into danger and now she's calling Picard out in it. She is a hypocrite. Picard needs to call her out.
Welcome to Star Trek.
I don't think there's any possible explanation - short of like falling through a wormhole for 25 years - which would have been defensible.
Beverly made a bad decision in the heat of the moment when she became pregnant, and then doubled down on being avoidant because she didn't want to have to face Jean Luc and say she kept it a secret for X number of years. The longer she went, the harder it was to break from this.
Selfish? Stupid? Yep. She's a human being. That's not going to evolve out of us in less than 400 years' time. Sorry.
Matalas and all the others who like season 3 keep banging on about how basically the entire rest of the season hinges on this supposedly amazing conversation making sense and coming across right. It seems to be THE focal point. So. Given the fact that Crusher comes across as absolutely horrible I don’t want to even guess what this means for what else they have in store regarding this entire bizarre angle.
You assume there's one faction of renegade Changelings?
(IE - we have 7 episodes left.
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Hey. That's Wesley's choice. He could visit his mother anytime/place he wanted. He chose not to.