Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"

[jaime]

I don't think this works because you're basing assumptions on the 21st century practice of dispensing medicine to a patient for home use, with no way of monitoring compliance. In the 24th century, you might trust a patient to self administer a drug, but for sure you are going to have a computerized way to monitor when and how much is injected. Your hypo is going to tell your doctor if you miss a dose or take too much, and a nurse is going to immediately follow up to tell you to take your injection. And if you still don't administer it, they'll bug you more. And that's assuming they wouldn't just implant a tiny slow-release dispenser in your abdomen to begin with. There should be no excuse for medication compliance falling through the cracks by this point in time.

Deleted scene that turns up in the novelisation actually has Beverly put a borderline invisible implant into Zefram Cochrane to moderate his BiPolar funnily enough. Can’t remember if she even had his consent, but it was done as a parting gift from the future he helped create/save.

 

[Yistaan]

So if a Changeling infiltrator is on Vadic's side and Vadic wants Jack, why did the Changeling try to kill Jack and not just capture him and take off with him in a shuttle to Vadic?

 

[David cgc]

Deleted scene that turns up in the novelisation actually has Beverly put a borderline invisible implant into Zefram Cochrane to moderate his BiPolar funnily enough. Can’t remember if she even had his consent, but it was done as a parting gift from the future he helped create/save.

I don't think whose idea permanently treating Cochrane comes up, but I assume Crusher didn't just knock him out and perform touch-free brain surgery while they were waiting for the Vulcans without asking, as it was a replacement/repair of an implant he'd already had that worked electrically or dispensed medication like an insulin pump to manage his condition, and he hadn't been able to recharge/refill it because of the war. And I'm pretty sure him self-medicating for bipolar disorder was purely an invention of the author to explain his behavior compared to when he was in TOS and not anything that was actually in the script.

 

[ToddCam]

Comedy henchman who can't follow orders.

 

[jaime]

I don't think whose idea permanently treating Cochrane comes up, but I assume Crusher didn't just knock him out and perform touch-free brain surgery while they were waiting for the Vulcans without asking, as it was a replacement/repair of an implant he'd already had that worked electrically or dispensed medication like an insulin pump to manage his condition, and he hadn't been able to recharge/refill it because of the war. And I'm pretty sure him self-medicating for bipolar disorder was purely an invention of the author to explain his behavior compared to when he was in TOS and not anything that was actually in the script.

Ah yes, I had forgotten it was pre-existing and not future tech like McCoys kidney pills. I do remember them basically hoping no one would would notice it.

 

[NCC-73515]

The Titan door sound begins with the TNG regular door sound and ends with the holodeck / cargo bay door sound

Why are the Titan’s shields the old 23rd design with them being close to the ship? It should be a bubble.

Watch Nemesis...

Here’s a question: Where did Jack’s vision come from? Is he hallucinating because of the gas or because he inherited Picard’s brain abnormality or did he inherit something from Beverly that makes him as attractive to beings like the good Changelings in the Great Link as his half-brother Wesley was to the Traveler? My guess is that the good faction in the Great Link is trying to communicate and stop the terrorists, so Jack hears “Find me” and “Connect the branches.” They never did explain completely just why Wesley was supposedly so special but his mother and great grandmother and generations of Howards were all highly attractive to the shape changing entity who took up residence in that candle. It’s probably in the Howard genes and Jack inherited as much DNA from Beverly as he did from Jean-Luc.

I think Seven of Vine is a vision from the nebula

Whenever Jack Crusher is talking I can't help but think of a Geico commercial.

That gecko is so much cuter! They should replace Jack with him!

 

[fireproof78]

Watch Nemesis...

No way, Jose!

 

[CrellMoset]

The Titan door sound begins with the TNG regular door sound and ends with the holodeck / cargo bay door sound


Watch Nemesis...

https://tenor.com/view/no-jonathan-frakes-beyond-belief-beyond-belief-fact-or-fiction-gif-21054615

 

[Richard S. Ta]

On reflection, I didn't like this one so much. Like, 7/10.

I thought the Worf humour was turned up just a little bit too much, though the timbre of Dorn's voice has aged beautifully. Hopefully his character can begin to soften Raffi's character a bit now that she knows he is onside.

Most of all though, I thought the sudden passive-aggression between Picard and Rider came out of nowhere. It was no fun watching two old buddies get nasty. Like. these guys have known each other for decades. Served alongside each other for decades. I'd rather have had them come to the same moments of jeopardy they do in the episode, but as a result of pooling ideas and failing rather than being at each other's throats. It felt quite out of character to me.

Poor Shaw and I hope he will be alright. Seeing Crusher doing Doctor stuff is very cool.

I think Seven sort of needs her own show. I love the character and Jeri Ryan, but she's never felt like she has a consistent place in the show for me. No-one like Janeway to bat against I suppose. I hope she gets her own show, Titan or nay though. Captain Seven would be really cool.

 

[Mr Awe]

^ RE: Riker and Picard, agreed. We can only hope they were under the influence of the nebula alien, or that one of them was a Changeling. Former is more likely.

 

[TRON JA307020]

^ RE: Riker and Picard, agreed. We can only hope they were under the influence of the nebula alien, or that one of them was a Changeling. Former is more likely.

I was also hoping the alien nebula was affecting them but somehow I doubt it. I think the new aggression between them is just modern writing and writers feeling the world that Roddenberry wanted where there was not as much aggression between working colleagues was not something attainable or realistic.

 

[Brainsucker]

Why are the Titan’s shields the old 23rd design with them being close to the ship? It should be a bubble.

Titan focus her shield to the focus on the front setting.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I think that was less about the years on the Enterprise and more about a specific, intense series of post-Nemesis/pre-PIC S1 incidents that happened when Beverly was already in emotional turmoil and Picard would have been consumed by the evacuation effort. So I guess we're supposed to take it as it wasn't so much that Picard was always in such a state of high peril, but that was his life when she had a choice to make, and even once his circumstances changed, her emotional impressions of the situation didn't.

I don't buy it. She allowed her first son to get involved in all sorts of danger and put herself in a fair bit of it too. Picard was also in a ton of danger long before the Romulan crisis. She then goes and puts Jack in an absolute bag load of danger anyway.

 

[jaime]

I was also hoping the alien nebula was affecting them but somehow I doubt it. I think the new aggression between them is just modern writing and writers feeling the world that Roddenberry wanted where there was not as much aggression between working colleagues was not something attainable or realistic.

I think Picard basically going “you’re a chicken cos your son died init, but don’t be” and in some ways having Picard repeat repeating the mistake he made calling Worf a coward in FC in some ways has a lot to do with it. It’s not entirely without precedent, and you can argue that kind of conflict has been around a while — ‘let them die’ in TUC, and even the tension between Spock and Kirk in TMP. Tension that comes from someone making assumptions and misjudging someone they should know better.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I think Picard basically going “you’re a chicken cos your son died init, but don’t be” and in some ways having Picard repeat repeating the mistake he made calling Worf a coward in FC in some ways has a lot to do with it. It’s not entirely without precedent, and you can argue that kind of conflict has been around a while — ‘let them die’ in TUC, and even the tension between Spock and Kirk in TMP. Tension that comes from someone making assumptions and misjudging someone they should know better.

There has always been tension in star trek but its been upped a lot more. Look at what Beverly did to Picard about the baby. The guy was in his 70s when the baby was born. Jack was about 5 or 6 when Picard had already resigned from starfkeet and she still didn't tell him about Jack. How much danger was left? This is evolved behavior? I don't buy it.

 

[StewMc]

The Titan door sound begins with the TNG regular door sound and ends with the holodeck / cargo bay door sound

Glad I wasn't imagining it, I noticed it particularly on the door to Seven's quarters.

Also noticed that the sound when someone appears on the viewscreen is from TUC... I think?

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't buy it. She allowed her first son to get involved in all sorts of danger and put herself in a fair bit of it too. Picard was also in a ton of danger long before the Romulan crisis. She then goes and puts Jack in an absolute bag load of danger anyway.

Only in extreme danger once Vadic and Co started chasing them.

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

Only in extreme danger once Vadic and Co started chasing them.

I'd cite it as simple blindness to the situation. She tried to go out and do good with him after losing 2 family members to the stars and risked also going through that pain for a third and even fourth time. So much so she ran outside of The Federation seemingly to do so and cut off contact from every close friend she seemingly had.

There was still danger (shown by Jack bribing the Rangers) but significantly less than a new space anomaly every week.

 

[Search4]

Hey Jack had a calm normal life until he reached adulthood- and then was helping in low risk medical missions - and THEN got chased by Vadic and team. Bev was consistent on his safety until he was old enough to choose.

 

[Farscape One]

Earth is pretty safe. Picard had already resigned and was at the vineyard. The most dangerous thing about that life is getting a few thorns on your hands from the vines. Oh my, such a dangerous lifestyle...

That excuse of constant danger holds no weight once he resigned. Especially when she's out there on the frontier with Jack.