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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"

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At least Kirk knew of his son, but chose not to be in it. Picard didn't get to chose. And lost out on 20 years ... And Beverly had the crappiest reasons ..
To me .. Kirk was bad, this is 10x worse.. Crappiest thing there ever done to a character.
 
I swear. The studios must have terabytes of data to construct a realistic CGI Patrick Stewart long after he's gone.

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The only thing I can think of that would be at the off-site Daystrom Institute could be Lore. Would make sense to keep him at that secure location, and most likely has been experimented on over the decades. My questionis: What would the Founders need him for?
 
Okay.. .. Okay.... She got preggie .. Ok.. Decided not to tell the baby daddy because she didn't want him going all over the galaxy.. Okay.. But.. Picard was SITTING WITH HIS THUMB UP HIS ARSE FIR BEST PART OF 20 YEARS. In the vineyard!! He didn't go anywhere..!!
Victim blaming at its 1000% worse.. Horrible lost kid trope that needs to die a horrific death.. No reason except.. I didn't feel like telling u.. F÷=%..
Shittyist moment in trek..

Rest was good, worf was excellent.

I don't think it was the shiitiest thing in Trek, but it was not good at all, but, sorta par for the course for Beverly, 'Ill do what I think is right and ---- everything and everyone else Crusher.
 
"Star Trek: Picard" challenges us to consider that our icons change, yes even in franchises | Salon.com

Dorn admitted to having a few reservations about Worf's initial reveal in "Picard," but was ultimately satisfied by how his story progressed. Nevertheless: "There were times when I'd look at the script and go, 'You know, Worf wouldn't say that. You know?'" Dorn told reporters covering the event. "And Jonathan Frakes, you know, he would say, 'Shut up, Mike, and do the lines.'"


I'm starting to get a little nervous, Dorn's saying these things at promotional events bring flashbacks of Mark Hamill mentioning his misgivings about the Last Jedi. These guys know their characters. Between Disney's Star Wars and now possibly Trek, we have out-of-character moments that are then covered up as "people change". Yes, they change in a way that's organic to their past--for example, Wolverine and Xavier in the Logan movie, or Spock trying to help the Romulans and also being fooled by Pardek in Unification. But things like Beverly's hiding a kid from Jean-Luc can't really be classified as organic or natural change of character as much as artifical plot changes and character alterations that don't really jive with what went before (Beverly for example takes a bunch of isolated violent incidents to justify her actions when this very show highlighted Picard living a peaceful life for 15 years on Earth).
 
Okay.. Can't believe im saying it.. I like Raffi and Worfs scenes.. Even Raffi by her self..
Which is a gosh darn miracle because she has sucked hard vacuum for the first 2 seasons and was really irate that they were bring her back for S3 and not the others.. But.. I can accept the miracle.
 
Okay.. Can't believe im saying it.. I like Raffi and Worfs scenes.. Even Raffi by her self..
Which is a gosh darn miracle because she has sucked hard vacuum for the first 2 seasons and was really irate that they were bring her back for S3 and not the others.. But.. I can accept the miracle.
This season of Picard might be better without Picard in it. The Raffi and Worf vs Changelings storyline is compelling, maybe more compelling, than the Picard/Crusher family drama honestly.

They could've put Soji and Elnor with Raffi and Worf and we'd have a good Trek show without Picard, with maybe surprise appearances by, say, Remy Auberjonois playing his father's role of Odo, Cirroc Lofton's Jake Sisko as the target of the Changelings' vengeance instead of this Jack Crusher guy, and maybe even sneak in a cameo by Benjamin Sisko himself at the last episode.
 
"Star Trek: Picard" challenges us to consider that our icons change, yes even in franchises | Salon.com

Dorn admitted to having a few reservations about Worf's initial reveal in "Picard," but was ultimately satisfied by how his story progressed. Nevertheless: "There were times when I'd look at the script and go, 'You know, Worf wouldn't say that. You know?'" Dorn told reporters covering the event. "And Jonathan Frakes, you know, he would say, 'Shut up, Mike, and do the lines.'"


I'm starting to get a little nervous, Dorn's saying these things at promotional events bring flashbacks of Mark Hamill mentioning his misgivings about the Last Jedi. These guys know their characters. Between Disney's Star Wars and now possibly Trek, we have out-of-character moments that are then covered up as "people change". Yes, they change in a way that's organic to their past--for example, Wolverine and Xavier in the Logan movie, or Spock trying to help the Romulans and also being fooled by Pardek in Unification. But things like Beverly's hiding a kid from Jean-Luc can't really be classified as organic or natural change of character as much as artifical plot changes and character alterations that don't really jive with what went before (Beverly for example takes a bunch of isolated violent incidents to justify her actions when this very show highlighted Picard living a peaceful life for 15 years on Earth).

I am fine with change and development but what I take issue with is cynical, mean-spirited deconstruction. People think this is how you get good drama but it is pretty lazy.
 
I am fine with change and development but what I take issue with is cynical, mean-spirited deconstruction. People think this is how you get good drama but it is pretty lazy.
You articulated exactly what I wanted to say much better and in fewer words.
 
I really hope you're joking.

If Wesleys job is to help safe guard and protect the timeline, then introducing advance technology to an earlier age would be a direct violation of his very purpose.

It's utterly irrational to state that this should happen.
It's only for his mom, I'm sure Beverly could swear a oath to not spread the tech.

Now I preface my first post by making an assumption, and that's all it is. But I would thank such an important role would want you to be able to act in situations that are supposed to happen when they involve people you have a relationship with. Thus why I thank its a reasonable assumption that you would need to break contact, at the very least keep it as minimal as possible.
Wow, so he can't see his own mother, while doing his job?

That sucks. What's the use of being all powerful if you have to give up contact with your own family?
 
I swear. The studios must have terabytes of data to construct a realistic CGI Patrick Stewart long after he's gone.

Last Stand in 2006

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X-men: Wolverine 2009

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Now

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The one in season one was actually pretty good IIRC. Better than any of these wax dummies. The season 3 attempt looks like they couldn't afford more elaborate de-aging and just went for good old-fashioned vanity blurring. The kind that has looked crappy for well over a decade. ;)
 
"Star Trek: Picard" challenges us to consider that our icons change, yes even in franchises | Salon.com

Dorn admitted to having a few reservations about Worf's initial reveal in "Picard," but was ultimately satisfied by how his story progressed. Nevertheless: "There were times when I'd look at the script and go, 'You know, Worf wouldn't say that. You know?'" Dorn told reporters covering the event. "And Jonathan Frakes, you know, he would say, 'Shut up, Mike, and do the lines.'"


I'm starting to get a little nervous, Dorn's saying these things at promotional events bring flashbacks of Mark Hamill mentioning his misgivings about the Last Jedi. These guys know their characters. Between Disney's Star Wars and now possibly Trek, we have out-of-character moments that are then covered up as "people change". Yes, they change in a way that's organic to their past--for example, Wolverine and Xavier in the Logan movie, or Spock trying to help the Romulans and also being fooled by Pardek in Unification. But things like Beverly's hiding a kid from Jean-Luc can't really be classified as organic or natural change of character as much as artifical plot changes and character alterations that don't really jive with what went before (Beverly for example takes a bunch of isolated violent incidents to justify her actions when this very show highlighted Picard living a peaceful life for 15 years on Earth).
It's like grandpa Sisko not telling Ben that his mom was not his real mom. You think you'll tell them soon... soon... later... not now... and then it's too late and you feel it would be even worse to tell him now, cause you should've told him sooner...

They were both right in that scene. That made it so great!
 
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