The cake is a lie.
Also, this show is fucking awful.
Also, this show is fucking awful.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"
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It’s better than seasons one and two. I just wish they would turn some lights on.
It really isn't.
It's just as bad. But with WOk references.
It's just as bad. But with WOk references.
If Beverly cut off Picard and the Enterprise crew right after Nemesis per the implication in this episode, how is Picard supposed to understand the reference to Wesley's disappearance when last he saw Wesley he was fine and attending Riker and Troi's wedding in Nemesis?
It should be the same behavior that saves them as well.
I liked it, but didn't love it.
Vadic was a lot better in this episode. Losing the weird mania and letting her play it quiet and menacing was a much, much better choice.
Changelings. Never even crossed my mind, but in retrospect it makes a lot of sense.
Worf was brilliant. Liked dad edition Riker a lot too. But some of the conflict between Riker and Picard felt really forced. Early on it worked, two men with different ideas about how to proceed. But it got increasingly cartoonish. Also, it's the first time I've felt like the writers have lost Riker's voice.
Ok, so the real target for the Daystrom theft was Lore, right? What do Changelings need with an android? There had better be more information forthcoming down the road.
And, finally: my biggest take away from this episode is that the obvious spin-off generating scenes have to be deliberate, yes? Seven and Jack, Seven and Sydney LaForge. I'm not saying they are definitely going to do a Captain Seven show, but it sure feels like they want to. She even has a crew/supporting cast emerging. Also, I'd totally watch Jeri Ryan play this role forever, so maybe it just hits a spot.
Vadic was a lot better in this episode. Losing the weird mania and letting her play it quiet and menacing was a much, much better choice.
Changelings. Never even crossed my mind, but in retrospect it makes a lot of sense.
Worf was brilliant. Liked dad edition Riker a lot too. But some of the conflict between Riker and Picard felt really forced. Early on it worked, two men with different ideas about how to proceed. But it got increasingly cartoonish. Also, it's the first time I've felt like the writers have lost Riker's voice.
Ok, so the real target for the Daystrom theft was Lore, right? What do Changelings need with an android? There had better be more information forthcoming down the road.
And, finally: my biggest take away from this episode is that the obvious spin-off generating scenes have to be deliberate, yes? Seven and Jack, Seven and Sydney LaForge. I'm not saying they are definitely going to do a Captain Seven show, but it sure feels like they want to. She even has a crew/supporting cast emerging. Also, I'd totally watch Jeri Ryan play this role forever, so maybe it just hits a spot.
Picard was a father figure to the child Elnor, whom he didn’t bother to see after he resigned from Star Fleet over the Romulan decision. He regretted not having a family after his brother and nephew died in a fire and after his experience with the alien civilization, but I would say he liked the idea of having kids better than actually being around them. He’s also interacted with Jack pretty much the way he did with his half brother Wesley — stern commanding officer calling an ensign on the carpet and demanding he explain himself. This was also the way his brother Robert related to his own son and the way Maurice Picard related to Robert and Jean-Luc, so I don’t necessarily believe Picard would have been a touchy feely dad. He’s following his own paternal role model here. I do believe he will love and protect Jack and set the world on fire to save him and Jack will also come to love him.
I see a lot of people saying Riker was in the wrong but he is the Captain of the ship, activated from the reserves with full authority. Picard is a retired Admiral with no authority who just found out he has a son he never knew and that sons life is in danger, and is emotionally compromised.
Picard is the one with no right to dispute Rikers authority and is doing it in public in front of his (brand new) crew, undermining his authority, trying to get him to engage in battle with a ship that heavily outclassed his own, putting the crews life at risk to try and solve a mystery involving his son.
Riker is acting in character, Picard is the one out of line.
And the end showed Riker was right all along.
Picard is the one with no right to dispute Rikers authority and is doing it in public in front of his (brand new) crew, undermining his authority, trying to get him to engage in battle with a ship that heavily outclassed his own, putting the crews life at risk to try and solve a mystery involving his son.
Riker is acting in character, Picard is the one out of line.
And the end showed Riker was right all along.
We don't know that yet. That may well be a part of the story. But, I don't fault Shaw at all.
Oh, nice.
If he's a changeling or Thomas, then I feel like he had to have been switched sometime in this episode right? The stuff where he knew how to find Beverly in the first episode and when he talked about Deanna and their kids felt like real Riker.
Already saw Stewart and Frakes giving an interview yesterday where they were promoting the idea of a Seven and Raffi lead ship with Jack, Sydney, and Kestra onboard and their parents visiting for guest spots. So yeah, if they aren't already planning one, it sure seems like they want to.
It cracks me up to see people say things like this, yet they continue to watch the show.
"I hate this, it is revolting!"
"More?"
"Please!"
Frakes interview with Wheaton on The Ready Room this week seemed to make it clear he doesn't consider this to be the end.
Trek fans in a nutshell.
Vorta?
Don't be so literal. I don't think she means Wes disappeared, she means he's out there as a Traveler because of Picard.
For what it's worth, I did quit Lower Decks. Picard's pretty bad but it hasn't goten "Lower Decks" level of bad yet. But it might cross that line for me one day, you never know.
Keep in mind critics are in a bind. If they don't watch the show, they're told they have no right to criticize it and be told they need to watch more episodes and trust the writers etc. to "prove" the legitimacy of their critiques. If they then do that, they are then mocked for watching a show they already criticized, even though they only continue to watch to "prove" that they have the right to criticize the show. It's catch 22.
If a show is so intolerable as to generate anger, hate and rage then dropping it strikes me as imminently logical. People can criticize all they want but the level of emotional reaction, both positive and negative, strikes me as very odd, to say the least. But, sticking around for some vain reason when it clearly isn't enjoyable strikes me as even more strange.
I watched six episodes of Enterprise in 2001, then stopped. I figured that was a good enough balance between giving it a chance and not continuing to watch it if I didn't like it.
I don't think CorporalClegg is angry. This show just isn't his thing (yet he's still watching?) and too much attention is being paid to his post.
Clearly some Changelings from the old Dominion still have trouble replicating humanoid form even in the late 32nd century, so the splinter Changelings who wanted revenge after the Dominion War ended were pretty skilled.
Oh, I was speaking very broadly. I would personally love to hear @CorporalClegg and their point of view, as I find it quite fascinating and don't think they are angry at all.