I think Beverly blames Picard for Jack's death and for Wesley not being a part of her life.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"
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If we're going to be doing Dominion War 2.0 might as well bring in full telekinetic Vorta that got swept under the rug in DS9 despite their first appearance. Might as well out-Star Wars Star Wars at this point. Besides, we've all been waiting for years to see a villain Force choke a Starfleet officer.
If the Vorta and Jem Hadar worship the Founders as gods and the Founders have a schism, who does their allegiance go to, Odo's faction or Vadic's?
The Titan crew should generate some fake subspace chatter about Sisko returning to get Vadic running. Or maybe read Jake Sisko's books to her. Where are Garak's changeling torture devices when you need them?
So after the unsubtle hints about the nebula this episode, who's at the center? Laas? God?
Vadic: God, the Titan is falling towards you. After all these years, you're finally getting a starship.
God: This ship is crippled!
Vadic: You said you wanted a starship, you didn't specify what condition you wanted the starship in. What does God need with a starship anyway?
Sounds like Beverly never heard from Wesley again after Nemesis. So much for my theory he lived out a full life to old age and then became a Traveler. He's as good a son as Doctor Who is a grandfather.
If the Vorta and Jem Hadar worship the Founders as gods and the Founders have a schism, who does their allegiance go to, Odo's faction or Vadic's?
The Titan crew should generate some fake subspace chatter about Sisko returning to get Vadic running. Or maybe read Jake Sisko's books to her. Where are Garak's changeling torture devices when you need them?
So after the unsubtle hints about the nebula this episode, who's at the center? Laas? God?
Vadic: God, the Titan is falling towards you. After all these years, you're finally getting a starship.
God: This ship is crippled!
Vadic: You said you wanted a starship, you didn't specify what condition you wanted the starship in. What does God need with a starship anyway?
Sounds like Beverly never heard from Wesley again after Nemesis. So much for my theory he lived out a full life to old age and then became a Traveler. He's as good a son as Doctor Who is a grandfather.
The other weapon they stole is obviously Lore. Maybe Moriarty too.
They've character assassinated Crusher in my book and I hated the Riker/Picard quarrel and Riker blaming Picard in the end. Definately not the TNG reunion I wanted to see. Ah well, there's still The Orville, Lower Decks and TNG reruns for me to get my TNG fix.
Raffi and Worf's story line was tedious in the beginning but got interesting with the Changeling reveal.
I hope they destroy the Shrike next episode. The bwham noise when it appears annoys the hell out of me.
Raffi and Worf's story line was tedious in the beginning but got interesting with the Changeling reveal.
I hope they destroy the Shrike next episode. The bwham noise when it appears annoys the hell out of me.
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itll behard to watch tng looking at crusher the same way. What theyve done is almost like what the mission impossible movies did to jim phelps
So is Jack a Changeling, too? Did Beverly pull a Robert Crater and supplant him into her life after her real son died for some reason? Why all the effort by hostiles to track him? Was he nothing more than bait to trap Picard, who could have been easily captured by other means?
Hmm...
Now that the Changelings have returned, I'm going into full paranoid mode. Thanks a lot, Picard.
Hmm...
Now that the Changelings have returned, I'm going into full paranoid mode. Thanks a lot, Picard.
I figure with Beverly everyone has their breaking point. I'm not a mother, or a father, but if I already was a widow and lost a son so to speak, maybe I'd make the same emotional, and ultimately irrational decision?
And it's been stressed repeatedly: these aren't the same characters. The best characters evolve, whether we like their evolution or not.
And it's been stressed repeatedly: these aren't the same characters. The best characters evolve, whether we like their evolution or not.
Michael Dorn is as fantastic as ever, he remains such an asset for Trek. I also laughed at the "sub-contractor" line after Joel talked about how cool contractors were back in the day last week!
Not sure i agree with changelings in this way - and surely there must be watertight systems to detect them on any Starfleet ship? It was only 20 years ago. Anyway, let's see.
Still some forced conflict - why didn't Riker release his ship's first officer after taking command, her having been incarcerated for helping him in the first place? All so Jack could punt the guard, I think. But apart from that, a much stronger ep than the past two.
Not sure i agree with changelings in this way - and surely there must be watertight systems to detect them on any Starfleet ship? It was only 20 years ago. Anyway, let's see.
Still some forced conflict - why didn't Riker release his ship's first officer after taking command, her having been incarcerated for helping him in the first place? All so Jack could punt the guard, I think. But apart from that, a much stronger ep than the past two.
It's not "All of 'The Founders'". Just a rebel group who broke off from "The Great Link" and wanted vengeance for losing "The Dominion War". That's very believable, especially for a government that is as oold as "The Great link". Accepting defeat is very hard, especially if you haven't been defeated for many centuries. And to be defeated by "Solids" non-the-less.
Yeah, that was unnecessary drama and bad form.
Riker should've listened to his own opinion instead of JLP.
They had no solution for the Portal Tech.
I don't understand why they insisted on firing that many torpedoes.
Also Proximity Bursting of those torpedoes would've been a better solution than head on firing them at 'The Shrike'.
It worked once, it could work again.
You only need to detonate 1x Torpedo at a time.
B-4 is not a weapon, he is dumb! :-D
Thank Inception for that. It gave us giant fart sounds whenever something is supposed to be dark/threatening/ominous
"Tell me. How long have you been away from the Great Link?"
On consideration, this is my favorite line of this episode. Sure, his one-liners are side-splitting, but just look at that deep comprehension of the situation.
I may be a contrarian, but after three episodes, the Raffi storyline is leagues better than the Picard storyline. It's not even close.
Everyone on the Titan suddenly becomes incompetent to the point where you wonder how Picard was ever some kind of genius tactician to have a move named after him and they also all do a 180 from the positions they had in the last episode.
Meanwhile, Raffi and Worf are getting shit done and have an actual plot that propels them. Of course we don't see them necessarily being competent - Worf just magically has the answer all along - but at least they're not incompetent.
I assume there's a reason to put them nebula to find whatever it is that's unknown there, but the writers could have find any number of ways to get them there. It's made worse because there's absolutely no peril, because unless Riker is getting a Romulan to tear out his eyeballs soon, we know everyone is going to be safe anyway.
I'm hoping there's an actual DS9 cameo... not knowing any casting news, I have no idea if that's the case or not.
Everyone on the Titan suddenly becomes incompetent to the point where you wonder how Picard was ever some kind of genius tactician to have a move named after him and they also all do a 180 from the positions they had in the last episode.
Meanwhile, Raffi and Worf are getting shit done and have an actual plot that propels them. Of course we don't see them necessarily being competent - Worf just magically has the answer all along - but at least they're not incompetent.
I assume there's a reason to put them nebula to find whatever it is that's unknown there, but the writers could have find any number of ways to get them there. It's made worse because there's absolutely no peril, because unless Riker is getting a Romulan to tear out his eyeballs soon, we know everyone is going to be safe anyway.
I'm hoping there's an actual DS9 cameo... not knowing any casting news, I have no idea if that's the case or not.
Ok episode, Plummer was very good in her calm reserved way as she hunted them, and i am going to say it was Lore who has been stolen from the institute, Worf was great as usual, so a 7 from me, i would have given it a 9 but i took 1 point off for the pointless Raffi charactor and another point off for the J Crusher charactor. Lol
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