Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"
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Only at Warp 10.
We would say "the family Smith-Walker, combine both names (male first). Children do get the name of the father, traditionally.
That reminds me of the movie The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill But Came Down A Mountain. It begins with a narrator saying that for some reason, lost to time, there's a huge shortage of last names in Wales. Actually there IS a reason: as the English were ramping up their domination of Wales centuries ago, they got rid of the complex Welsh system of patronymics and basically just introduced last names at random.
So that's why so many people in Wales are named Evans, Williams or Jones. The English did that to them!
Yep. Don't forget Lloyd and Floyd. 
The tartan system for kilts was also imposed on the Scots by the English so they could tell all the clans apart from each other (because we all look alike, don'cha know), and pretty much everyone knows what was done to the Irish and the Indians over time. I think the only reason the Indians were successful at severing ties from the Brits in the last century was because they were halfway around the world and persistent subjugation at those distances became logistically unfeasible.
The tartan system for kilts was also imposed on the Scots by the English so they could tell all the clans apart from each other (because we all look alike, don'cha know), and pretty much everyone knows what was done to the Irish and the Indians over time. I think the only reason the Indians were successful at severing ties from the Brits in the last century was because they were halfway around the world and persistent subjugation at those distances became logistically unfeasible.
That reminds me of the movie The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill But Came Down A Mountain. It begins with a narrator saying that for some reason, lost to time, there's a huge shortage of last names in Wales. Actually there IS a reason: as the English were ramping up their domination of Wales centuries ago, they got rid of the complex Welsh system of patronymics and basically just introduced last names at random.
So that's why so many people in Wales are named Evans, Williams or Jones. The English did that to them!
Ah, an attempt at cultural genocide then.
we learned from our mother country.
I had absolutely ZERO idea that Scottish tartans were an English invention!
What did the Scots use before that?
What did the Scots use before that?
They were a poor people. Whatever they could get a hold of and made by hand, basically. Curtains, table cloths, blankets, etc. Most of the patterns were just random plaid, generally subdued and surprisingly effective camouflage on the moors, then sometime around the 16th, 17th or 18th centuries, the English mandated that they wear more organized colors. IIRC, it was so the landed English "nobles" could tell who their subjects were more easily at court. Made it easier to tax them, I guess.
To this day, the wool for tartans is harvested from Scottish and Welsh sheep, sent to England for processing and dying, and sold back to them at a staggeringly accelerated premium. I learned all of this when I purchased my own 9-yard kilt fabric back in '98 (MacDonald of Glencoe - big massacre story there, too, dating back to 1692, with the Brits and their Campbell toadies). Since many military units (42nd Black Watch, for example) also have their own tartan assignments, all tartan fabric are considered "devices of war", much like the bagpipes and drums to this day, and are subject to extra tax levies. The place I was getting it from had to move it through Canada before sending it to me in the 'States, to get me a discount on the military taxes. I kind of felt like I was smuggling drugs through a cartel. The whole experience was quite surreal. I finally got it after about 6 months. Beautifully made.
Oh, yeah, fuck the English!
To this day, the wool for tartans is harvested from Scottish and Welsh sheep, sent to England for processing and dying, and sold back to them at a staggeringly accelerated premium. I learned all of this when I purchased my own 9-yard kilt fabric back in '98 (MacDonald of Glencoe - big massacre story there, too, dating back to 1692, with the Brits and their Campbell toadies). Since many military units (42nd Black Watch, for example) also have their own tartan assignments, all tartan fabric are considered "devices of war", much like the bagpipes and drums to this day, and are subject to extra tax levies. The place I was getting it from had to move it through Canada before sending it to me in the 'States, to get me a discount on the military taxes. I kind of felt like I was smuggling drugs through a cartel. The whole experience was quite surreal. I finally got it after about 6 months. Beautifully made.
Oh, yeah, fuck the English!
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Ah! Sadly then you probably won't ever get the great "Trekness" of it. I'm happy to enjoy it so much, but I would recommend not torturing yourself this way.
As I read this, I "heard" it all in a Scottish burr.They were a poor people. Whatever they could get a hold of and made by hand, basically. Curtains, table cloths, blankets, etc. Most of the patterns were just random plaid, generally subdued and surprisingly effective camouflage on the moors, then sometime around the 16th, 17th or 18th centuries, the English mandated that they wear more organized colors. IIRC, it was so the landed English "nobles" could tell who their subjects were more easily at court. Made it easier to tax them, I guess.
To this day, the wool for tartans is harvested from Scottish and Welsh sheep, sent to England for processing and dying, and sold back to them at a staggeringly accelerated premium. I learned all of this when I purchased my own 9-yard kilt fabric back in '98 (MacDonald of Glencoe - big massacre story there, too, dating back to 1692, with the Brits and their Campbell toadies). Since many military units (42nd Black Watch, for example) also have their own tartan assignments, all tartan fabric are considered "devices of war", much like the bagpipes and drums to this day, and are subject to extra tax levies. The place I was getting it from had to move it through Canada before sending it to me in the 'States, to get me a discount on the military taxes. I kind of felt like I was smuggling drugs through a cartel. The whole experience was quite surreal. I finally got it after about 6 months. Beautifully made.
Oh, yeah, fuck the English!
If eit's nae Sco'ish, eit's CRRRRRAAAP!
And in the spirit of the upcoming St. Patrick's Day season...
And in the spirit of the upcoming St. Patrick's Day season...
Interesting.That reminds me of the movie The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill But Came Down A Mountain. It begins with a narrator saying that for some reason, lost to time, there's a huge shortage of last names in Wales. Actually there IS a reason: as the English were ramping up their domination of Wales centuries ago, they got rid of the complex Welsh system of patronymics and basically just introduced last names at random.
So that's why so many people in Wales are named Evans, Williams or Jones. The English did that to them!
Och awa an' dinnae talk pish.
I've got Murrays, Clarks, and McAlpins in my line (I bought a teddy bear with a Black Watch tartan just so I wouldn't leave anyone out!
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Stick on name tags. HELLO My name is Angus
This season has moved faster than Picard season 1, which continually went over the fact that Picard resigned from Starfleet over and over in the first three episodes, and didn't even introduce the La Sirenna until the end of the third episode.
