True. Mine certainly did from France to Quebec to California.
My wife finds greater affinity with my family than her own. She also prefers that myself, her and our daughters have the same last name. So that's how we rolled.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"
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Makes sense. Honestly that she had to marry to change her surnames is kinda frustrating (if that's the case, anyway): changing your surname because you want to over here is extremely complicated, often impossible (especially if it's not a very minor modification) and usually expensive.
Well, I mean there is far more to the story than just wanting to change her name. But, her meeting my family, and realizing that there were options out there was part of the healing process for her. That's a very brief summary.
While I'm glad for her for meeting you and your family, I really, really hope that his story is the exception regarding the reasons for changing last names...
I think name changing depends greatly on the people and should rest on their individual choice. I see no issue with changing any name any more than keeping a name. Certainly I have considered changing my name just due to personal preference. But, ultimately, I think this is a matter of personal choice and if someone wants to change their name then more power to them, regardless of the reason.
Quite so. Name changes and/or simplifications are quite common when families emigrate. The number of surnames that are clearly French to English translations in New England, given the large French-Canadian diaspora in the region from the 1830s to the 1960s, points to that. Also, business reasons can come into play. My great-grandfather simplified the family name from a now archaic compound version so his company could have a less common name. The list of reasons goes on.
My family name has been spelled many ways since they came from Germany, probably due to illiteracy initially so it was spelled like it sounded (it isn't now though).
That's why I would never have asked my wife to take my name if I weren't willing to take hers as well. For us it was either we both hyphenate our names, we both change our names to something new, or we don't change our names at all. We did ultimately decide to hyphenate our names for a few reasons, some emotional and some practical; in no particular order, it bumped me up in the alphabet, it made referring to us (and our future children) as a unit easier, and most importantly it was an expression of the idea that we were founding a new family by marrying and that we had each become a part of the other's identity.
I imagine women who take their husbands' surnames over their own probably feel the same way with those last two options, but clearly that romantic idea is in many (though not all) cases being filtered through a lens of ingrained, probably subconscious cultural misogyny that equates love with female subordination.
I didn't care at all that my wife didn't want to take my name, though the kids ultimately ended up with mine, not something hyphenated. It just didn't seem practical, in part because my last name is rather long to begin with. I mean, what would happen if your kids get married to someone with a double-hyphenated name as well? Would they continue with four last names, or would they have to pick/choose.
It's not like if you're a woman keeping the last name of your father's line is some great victory for feminism however - it's still a man's name. If I was starting society over with a clean sheet of paper, I'd say that sons take a father's last name, and daughters take a mother's last name. This has the added benefit that these genetic lineages are actually pretty easy to track (through Y chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA respectively).
Oh yes, I remember those. Also popularised by 24 and a few other shows.
It's mentioned in the Picard Novel Last, Best Hope who's canonicity I am going to consider fairly legit as its basically the prequel to the first season and leads to Picard's retirement mentions that Bajor has joined The Federation, suggesting some time between 2380-2385. It's also when more member worlds begin to be able to have their voices heard and could be why so many Bajorans are seen wearing their family earring when the precedent was set elsewhere that it'd be removed.
My wife and I decided that sometimes the key to happiness is being able to say, "That's someone else's problem."
Our kids will make that decision for themselves, if they ever chose to marry, and we'll support them whatever decision they make.To be clear, no Star Trek novels or tie-in media are ever canonical. The canon consists of the actual television shows and films and nothing else. However, it's fair to say that you accept info from a novel into your headcanon and/or to point out when it is consistent with the canon.
I tried to talk my wife into us both taking an amalgamation of our last names, but she wouldn't buy it.
I like the Icelandic naming convention.
Jón Einarsson has a son named Ólafur. His full name will be Ólafur Jónson (Jon's son).
Minerva has a daughter named Heiðar. Her full name will be Heiðar Mínervudóttir (Minerva's daughter).
Though girls traditionally have taken the father's name too, e.g. Heiðar Jónsdóttir, taking the mother's name is now a valid choice as well.
The added bonus is you get to memorise your line of descent and maybe chant it.
It's not canon.
those are patronimics and matronimics, Russians use them as well in addition of the surname.
Both Vulcans and Klingons seem to use those too.
