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Will Sam Beckett Return Home? NBC Orders Quantum Leap Reboot Pilot

All of the bigger issues would be with Allison. She's getting further and further from her 'home' universe with every leap, and can't ever get back. She's remembering a history that's changing by the moment, so knows less and less as time goes on. After a point, should have fewer and fewer references, barely even getting the joke when Ben says something about the 80s or whatever because what she remembers looks nothing like what Ben is currently seeing.

But Ben would remember the original history along with Addison. Their minds are linked through Ziggy, which is how they can communicate, and it keeps them both in sync with the original timeline (at least that's how it worked with Sam and Al). It's Ian, Jen, Magic, and Janis whose memories would be changing with the leaps.


I know it's a IRL casting issue, but 'reality' would probably be having the PQL team changing up every now and then. Different versions of them, or a totally new person popping up occasionally in place of someone she knew. Maybe the changes are super tiny, but which one of them eventually intersects with the life of someone on the team and they make a different decision? That Ian knew about the Gia stuff and was impacted by it (and it now never happened, or was a totally different even) could have sent them off of the team right there. Allison should be freaking out more every time she steps out of the imaging chamber...

I don't think that would be an issue, since I don't think whatever forces guide the project would cause a change that would cancel themselves out by altering the history of the project. I don't know if they even could, since that would create a paradox. Have you ever seen the 2002 remake of The Time Machine? There, the hero invented the time machine to undo the death of his fiancee, but he discovered that that was the one thing in the past he couldn't change, because without it, he never would've invented the time machine in the first place. Although the film had some conceptual issues (like having him decide this after only one failed attempt instead of many), there is some credibility to the idea. In the real-physics take on time travel, it's not completely impossible in theory, but a time travel event would be constrained to remain consistent with itself in order to make physical and mathematical sense, so a time traveler could not create a paradox. Realistically, that means you couldn't change the past at all (except by creating a parallel timeline), but in fiction, it could be used to mean that a time traveler could change anything except the events that led to the time travel.




Separate comment, but also agree with seemingly major issues with the random order of the timeline changes. Changing something in 1995 seems pointless if you then change something in 1950 that could have impacts on that later event. May have not have even happened, or way differently, etc. Show doesn't want to commit to having episodes air linearly, but short of having another God with a Master Plan reveal (or at least hint), hard to imagine the level of predictive supercomputing (more than Ziggy) it would take to do things in a random order and hope you don't butterfly effect the entire thing into oblivion.

Who says the order is random? Maybe the force behind the leaps (which I used to assume was probably Ziggy, until the finale revealed it was actually Sam's subconscious all along, probably in concert with Ziggy) calculated that making the changes in that order was necessary to create the desired ripple effects and no others.


Like the JFK episode in the original show, where they started messing with a major event. Believe he died either way, but Jackie also died in the original timeline?

Yes, that's correct.


Who knows what directions that drives the course of events? If you were Sam and were fixing things in 1970 last week, and now this week you're changing things around a Presidential assassination, the 1970 stuff may already be moot...

One thing people tend to overlook when they talk about the butterfly effect is that it describes something that can happen in the right conditions, not something that always happens. A single falling pebble at the right place and time can trigger an avalanche, but all the other pebbles that fell before it at different times and places had no effect beyond their immediate surroundings. To change metaphors, when ripples interact, they reinforce each other at some points but cancel out at others, and some just die down on their own.

Presumably that's why leapers generally only make changes on a personal scale, so that the ripples don't propagate too far, at least within the time frame of the leapers' lifetime (since a lot of the people whose lives they saved would presumably have kids that didn't exist before, and that would add up over time). Although the new series weakens that logic with all those ending scenes where Addison looks at her handlink and tells Ben about how his actions have had a major impact in getting a dangerous drug banned or ending a major criminal operation or getting a national law changed.
 
Everyone on the base, or just the command staff are protected from changes to the timeline some how.

Janis' DNA is close enough to Al's that she should be able to sync in.
 
It's a fictional battleship too. The US didn't go any higher than BB-71 as far as I can find in my research.

Which is probably why they used the number. Like the New York City 12th Precinct and the 555 telephone exchange.

So hold on... Are you telling me there was a ship called BB-8?
 
leap wise-at least it felt like an OG one mostly - as somebody mentioned > spotlight also on the human side as well as for Ben personally.
Also bothered by Ziggy already instantly knows, instead of Ziggy figuring it out bit by bit (literally)
 
Nice to see Ben really enjoying the leap, and getting some personal catharsis from the shared immigrant-family experience. And nice to see the kind of family drama episode that feels true to the spirit of the original, where the stakes are more personal and relationship-based than life-and-death or action-driven (aside from the token bit about trying to save the mother from a heart attack). I still wish they'd stop having Ziggy always figure out the purpose of the leap right off the bat. It takes away the mystery of finding out, and the suspense of not knowing if they're working toward the right goal.

Also interesting how the team coped with the Ian revelation. Nobody's suspicious of them because of what they might do in the future; everyone just wants to work with Ian to understand why their future self would do that. And it gives us our first chance to see Ian out of the office and learn something about their personal life.



I have no idea what that's a reference to.
Memes aren't always meant to be taken literally. Let your brain change it to writing Mao a note, that is somehow delivered right away. Also, understand it is tongue in cheek.

Kinda like, if someone said

"Someone couldn't be any more of a clutz" and Steve Urkel said, "hold my beer"

Also, Mousey Dong, LOL
[/12 year old humor]
 
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Memes aren't always meant to be taken literally. Let your brain change it to writing Mao a note, that is somehow delivered right away. Also, understand it is tongue in cheek.

I know how memes work. I'm simply unfamiliar with this specific one and wondering where it came from. That's all. But it's not worth the trouble, so forget it.
 
I know how memes work. I'm simply unfamiliar with this specific one and wondering where it came from. That's all. But it's not worth the trouble, so forget it.
OK, my bad, questioning the existence of a Cell Phone to call Mao (Due to your stated College Education in Chinese History) made it appear to me that you simply didn't understand the concept, I was simply trying to be helpful
 
On a smartphone?

I took Chinese history in college, but I'm not as knowledgeable about Internet memes. There's a meme about calling Mao?

*points to the meme about Mao*

This is where you go "hm, something I didn't know," and move on from the soft power flex of saying you took Chinese history in college as a riposte to a meme.
Indeed....and not just a flex, but an example of White Privilege.

Which is probably why they used the number. Like the New York City 12th Precinct and the 555 telephone exchange.

So hold on... Are you telling me there was a ship called BB-8?

No, there wasn't a ship called BB-8. But like a starship with the serial number designation of NCC-1701, the battleship called USS Alabama had the designation BB-8

I know how memes work. I'm simply unfamiliar with this specific one and wondering where it came from. That's all. But it's not worth the trouble, so forget it.
It isn't worth you growing in knowledge? Yes it is. Please stop flexing your white privilege in dismissing

People were happy to answer your initial inquiry... just stay humble and accept someone teaching you (even if you took a college class).

OK, my bad, questioning the existence of a Cell Phone to call Mao (Due to your stated College Education in Chinese History) made it appear to me that you simply didn't understand the concept, I was simply trying to be helpful
And i appreciate you trying. Don't let him discourage you.


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Oh, and regarding how it might see annoying that Ziggy suddenly knmow the problem to be solved. It has to be noted that B-sotyr with the team takes up a signficant amount of time. With the Peacock streaming, even though we still get 1-2 minute commercial breaks, the episodes still clocks a little over 40 minutes or so.

Mason Alexander Park continues to hit it out of the Park with Ian, and how Ian has a sincere struggle to understand the role of "Leaper Ian" and sincerely cares about everyone on the team.

I also really liked the A-story. as a child of immigrants, I appreciate those dynamics with the prideful parent . And this was especially good for Ben.
 
Yep, the first US battleship USS Alabama


Though they did use a real shuttle, Atlantis, in Episode 2. Fictional mission however.
Yeah, they usually try to play with fake assets, but occasionally the story gets a real name but fake event for whatever reason.

remember laughing at the submarine show Last Resort because they went out of their way to pick a realistic SSBN name that hadn’t been used (Colorado) based on state names for Ohio class. During filming, they announced more Virginia class sub names (Also states) and Colorado was one of the names. So their fake Colorado was the wrong class but a real name by the time the show was out there. New sub itself didn’t exist for a while longer, but it was officially released as the future name…
 
Last nights episode was, in my opinion at least, the best of the series so far,

Agree. Plenty of story in the leap with a surprise at the end.
Interesting that the talented Lt. Walker was also the mystery leaper and he thanked Ben for helping him.
 
Pretty good episode, and Brandon Routh was uncannily well-cast as Addison's father; they really do look alike. So much so that I just looked up Caitlin Bassett on IMDb to see if she was related to Routh in real life. She isn't, but it turns out she actually is a former Army intelligence analyst and an Afghanistan veteran.

Despite the resemblance, though, I wasn't sure Routh was really a good fit for such a reserved, buttoned-down character. I still saw too much Ray Palmer in him.

Also, it's unusual for QL to do a story with such high stakes, the potential for a global war in the balance. But at least it explains why two Leapers were there at the same time. I'd wonder if the Anti-Leaper was trying to start the war, but he seemed to have the same mission as Ben, to save the sub crew.

It seems off that Jenn didn't know what would happen if a team member's personal history was changed. Project Quantum Leap has years of experience with history changing, sometimes affecting Project members' lives, notably in the original series finale when Sam altered Al's past. (It was also implied that Sam altered his own history so that Donna Eleese no longer left him at the altar.) So she shouldn't have to resort to "Maybe it's like Back to the Future." The Project should have hard data to go on.
 
Indeed....and not just a flex, but an example of White Privilege.



No, there wasn't a ship called BB-8. But like a starship with the serial number designation of NCC-1701, the battleship called USS Alabama had the designation BB-8


It isn't worth you growing in knowledge? Yes it is. Please stop flexing your white privilege in dismissing

People were happy to answer your initial inquiry... just stay humble and accept someone teaching you (even if you took a college class).


And i appreciate you trying. Don't let him discourage you.


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Oh, and regarding how it might see annoying that Ziggy suddenly knmow the problem to be solved. It has to be noted that B-sotyr with the team takes up a signficant amount of time. With the Peacock streaming, even though we still get 1-2 minute commercial breaks, the episodes still clocks a little over 40 minutes or so.

Mason Alexander Park continues to hit it out of the Park with Ian, and how Ian has a sincere struggle to understand the role of "Leaper Ian" and sincerely cares about everyone on the team.

I also really liked the A-story. as a child of immigrants, I appreciate those dynamics with the prideful parent . And this was especially good for Ben.

Long time ago, days ago, Christopher was getting OCD about that meme because no one would explaining it to him.

I did a reverse image search to try and figure it out.

Sometimes the phone says "Thanos" instead of "Mao".
 
Also, it's unusual for QL to do a story with such high stakes, the potential for a global war in the balance. But at least it explains why two Leapers were there at the same time. I'd wonder if the Anti-Leaper was trying to start the war, but he seemed to have the same mission as Ben, to save the sub crew.

I think Ben wanted to save all the sub crew, but that Martinez was only out to save one of them. Just a theory.
 
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