Reminds me a lot of TNG and DS9 and VOY.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"
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I thought that also, but apparently the Produces have indicated that Captain Shaw actually chose Seven to be his Number One.
She wasn't assigned by a Star Fleet Admiral.
So we don't yet know what his reasoning was.
So is his real name Jean-Luc Picard filsWhat are you talking about? If he's Jean-Luc Picard's son, he's French!
Just like how in DS9 the Federation is unwilling to change their position on genetic engineering to cure some disorders?
The show doesn't imply that at all.
He chose her according to the producers, it will probably come up in the future episode.
That's still 700 years away. It's the journey not the destination. We've also been told the Federation was at its peak when the burn happened, there was no darkness before it.
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YES THEY DO SHOUT!!!
CHECK THE CIRCUIT!
ALL OPERATING, SIR!
DEFLECTORS, FULL INTENSITY!!
That scares me, but since losing Roe v Wade, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
My mom gave me shit about not taking my husband's name. I truly don't get it. It has nothing to do with my committment.
Bureaucrats & Politicians care more about their laws than about helping people.
I think the tradition is silly.
We need new traditions for Last-names.
How about, if you marry, you hyphenate and add on your partners last-name to your existing last-name.
Ergo <Your Last Name>-<Partners Last Name>
Both Marriage Partners have to do that to their existing last name.
Any Children will create a new original Last-Name that is a Composite or Derivative or Anagram or Portmanteau of both parents Last name.
Wouldn't that be cool?
We considered that, but hyphenating our names would be too damn long!
I have to say, I love getting the international perspectives!
Actually, per dialogue in "DOCTOR BASHIR, I PRRSUME?" by Bashir, genetic engineering/enhancements can be used to correct serious birth defects. And The Doctor on Voyager was able to do it for B'Elanna's baby with the spine issue... if it was illegal, he wouldn't have offered the option in the first place.
What should be done is not having any customs regarding how last names of couples or families should be. Just let everyone do their own thing. If a wife wants to take her husband's name, she can. If a husband wants to take his wife's name, he can. If the married couple want to hyphenate both last names, they can. If they want to keep their last names exactly as they were, they can do that too. Same sex couples can figure out which last name to use as the family name, or they can hyphenate or just keep their last names as is. Likewise when kids come along, the couple can work out between them which last name they get, if it's hyphenated or whatever.
Just let everyone take their own individual approaches to their marriages instead of dictating traditions that should be upheld.
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And if they can't agree...
THUNDERDOME!
All we want is what's beyond...
The thunderdome.
The Vulcans made Kirk & Spock fight to the death in "Amok Time." Talosians imprisoned various races with the idea of using them as slaves to reppopulate the planet. Kirk wanted to let the Klingons die in "Undiscovered Country." A huge swath of Federation "leadership" plotted to assassinate the President of the Federation to prevent peace from breaking out. The Crew turns on Spock in "Galileo Seven." How many times did Kirk, or Spock, or Data, or the TOS/TNG crew disobey orders or steal a ship, or stop some fascist Admiral or judge from a nefarious plot? I've lost count.
Aliens were frequently not very enlightened. You had ultra-powerful beings up to no good: "Charlie X", "The Squire of Gothos," "Who Mourns For Adonis?", and "Catspaw." Not to mention Klingons & Romulans.
We have a renowned federation doctor lobotimizing patients in "Dagger of the Mind." We have a Starfleet officer go homicidal when he gets ultra-powerful "Where No Man Has Gone Before." A mass murdering tyrant in "Conscience of the King." And those are just off the top of my head.
People pushing the nuTrek distopia/abondoning Gene's vision thing just need to stop. It is laughably inaccurate. On both counts. The future was never utopian and free of conflict, inside the Federation or not. And NuTrek has not abondoned Gene's optimistic take.
But there has to be conflict for good drama. It has come from various places:
1) Inside the character. Kirk in "The City on the Edge of Forever."
2) From an external threat. Romulans in "Balance of Terror." An alien superpowerful being in "Charlie X."
3) Within the Crew: External/Alien Forces. "Where No Man Has Gone Before." "The Enemy Within." "The Naked Time."
4) Within the Crew: Actual. "The Galileo Seven." "The Menagerie."
5) Within The Federation: Alien Influence. "Conspiracy."
6) Within the Federation: Actual. "The Undiscovered Country." "The Drumhead."
Both Roddenberry Trek and the NuTrek deal in all of the above. Albeit in different proportions.
The main diffetence is that in older Trek (mostly episodic) the threat gets wrapped at the end of the episode and everything resets. Whereas in NuTrek (most serial) there is a threat that looms over the whole season and does not get resolved until the end. So the whole season seems darker and doomier (though some of DS9 & ENT were this way).
And it is frequently a Federation/Galactic level crisis. Light/campy episodes are hard to do with the Sword of Damacles about to fall.
I will say I think NuTrek leans heavily into personal/internal conflict. But man, do they heap a tangled web of loss/trauma improbably inflicted by a small group on each other that they have to continually work with.
Especially Disco.
This sums up well, though I will just say that newer Trek does not feel any "darker and doomier" than past Trek. Again, TNG had an episode where Picard is just going to kill the whole crew instead of letting an alien kill half the crew. That's darker to me than current Trek.
Was it?
I was under the impression, that dilithium based warp travel was threatened by resource shortages, resulting in cultural and political pressures before the burn.
Hence the Ni’var and other factions researching for alternative propulsion methods.
They pushed their experiments so far that they were not convinced they didn’t cause the Burn themselves somehow.
I don’t remember if they had already left the Federation at that point, but other members had for sure.
They were on a decline for about a century before the Burn.
Regarding Picard's decision in "Where Silence Has Lease"... I actually agree with it for two reasons.
First, it may very well have been a bluff... we simply don't know. It was a way to stop Nagilum's experiment completely, which as soon as he saw Picard was not backing down, he let them go.
Second, if it was not a bluff, I still agree because half his crew were going to die in horrible ways, probably prolonged and tortuous because Nagilum wanted to see 'every kind of death'. (And the ensign on the bridge... just look at his face while dying. That was terror.) And considering Nagilum was just using the ship and crew like lab rats already, there is a high chance that whoever does survive the first round of deaths would have a far worse fate in store for them.
So the choice becomes a quick, painless death or death by however painful means Nagilum can think up. I know which one I'd pick. And I'm sure a vast majority, if not everyone on the crew, would pick the same.
If there was some hope of escape, I might be inclined to say risk it. But Nagilum was way, WAY more powerful and they were trapped in his lab. Their deaths were certain.
And?
That doesn't someone erase my point that that's fucking dark. I'm not saying I disagree; only that the supposed evolved captain of the starship decides that executing his crew painlessly is the best option. That's optimistic? O_o
Yes. According to the producers at least.
