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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x02 - "Disengage"

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Really enjoyed most of it, more than the first ep.

Negatives: Vadic was a bit far over the top for my liking. Shaw continues to be an idiot ("I won't risk my crew!" "Well, instead of getting the hell back to Federation space, let's stay and check out this monster ship" aren't entirely compatible views). Perhaps not quite as complete an idiot as in the first ep but still. The borrowing from the past is inevitable given Trek's longevity but as one of the dozen or so people on the planet who considers TWoK greatly overrated I'd rather they'd left it out. Each to their own. The Raffi bits will hopefully go somewhere interesting but there's not much sign of that yet.

Craptastic bit: Presumably Riker has re-trained as a doctor or nurse or pharmacist (or something) somewhere along the line, because somehow he knew exactly which hypo to use to revive Beverly. That bit was complete and utter garbage.

Positives: Seven continues to be awesome. Ensign LaForge needs more screen time. Don't mind Jack. I also don't mind that he's Picard's kid and I'm...hopeful, if not reasonably confident, that there's a good explanation for why Beverly cut ties with Picard and all her other mates. (I'm very much not in the "this destroys her character" camp.) Worf's reappearance was excellent (although the beheading bit seemed needless).

Off the scale brilliance: The Beverly / Picard wordless absolute reams of dialogue bit. Just superb.

As a dyed in the wool TNG fan I'm hoping this season will provide an actual send-off for that crew. The pure, unadulterated shite that is Nemesis was a thoroughly inappropriate note on which to end. I expect / hope for better from this. Remains to be seen.
 
The TNG movies sort of did it twice, first with Soran and the trilithium missiles in GEN and then with Shinzon's warpath of vengeance against Picard and the Federation in NEM.
It wasn’t just GEN and NEM. It was Soren, Borg Queen, Ru’afo, Shinzon, Nero, Admiral Marcus, and Krall/Edison.

I love TWOK, but hate the way it redefined Trek. Every post-TOS creator looked at TOS, saw that TWOK was the best, and concluded that the best Trek was about beating nasty bad guys. And therefore literally every single post-TOS film has followed that formula. And none of them have done it very well. Even the current TV series, except for LD, follow the formula. Blech. Give me classic Trek that didn’t have to adhere to that formula!
 
Officially it was an Escort Cruiser. Which in the modern day tends to be the largest warship in the fleet.

On screen it was the first "pure" warship we'd ever seen from The Federation and a fairly radical departure from traditional Fed Design school.

The Excelsiors were the first ship hull design which could be completely gutted during a refit and allow for more modern systems to be basically slotted into place. Very B-52 like in that regard.
The Lakota got upgrades, but not the new phaser arrays as it retained the traditional phaser banks from the TOS movies. And it got quantum torpedoes, which it didn't use in that particular battle. I think the engines were explicitly mentioned as having been upgraded, and possibly the shields as well.

Defiant was officially classified as just an "escort", in the usual playing down of Starfleet. In practice it is more like a WW2 destoyer: not a battleship, but it can hurt everything and has strength in numbers. It lacks proper endurance (compared to, say, an Intrepid) to be a cruiser, and in the real world AFAIK there is no such thing as an "escort cruiser". Cruisers are capital warships, not escorts.

Agreed it's in the same weight class, although the USS Defiant (and presumably other ships of her class, hero armour aside) have an absolutely insane kill/death rate against both Dominion fighters and Klingon ships. During the Dominion War we frequently saw the Defiant take out Dominion fighters with 2 or 3 clean ships from the pulse phaser cannons, and she's also gone up against (and won) vs several Klingon Bird of Prey and a Vor'cha class cruiser!

Makes you wonder what a 24th century Starfleet battleship/dreadnaught could actually do, would be terrifying
Yes, the Defiant is clearly better as a warship than its Klingon and Dominion equivalents (to say nothing about the Cardassian Hideki). Federation tech is probably quite a bit better, which also allows their larger ships to be on par with the opponents even if they are hotels which dedicate a lot of "real estate" to non-combat functions.
 
Decent episode, not great. The villain is so awfully cartoonish. An ensign saying the enemy ship "looks pissed" just made me roll my eyes. And Raffi is just about ruining this season for me already. Why was she ever brought back for this season? But enjoyed the scenes involving Picard, Riker, Seven and Shaw. Hopefully those positives will continue through the season as the old crew slowly reunite.
 
It wasn’t just GEN and NEM. It was Soren, Borg Queen, Ru’afo, Shinzon, Nero, Admiral Marcus, and Krall/Edison.

I love TWOK, but hate the way it redefined Trek. Every post-TOS creator looked at TOS, saw that TWOK was the best, and concluded that the best Trek was about beating nasty bad guys. And therefore literally every single post-TOS film has followed that formula. And none of them have done it very well. Even the current TV series, except for LD, follow the formula. Blech. Give me classic Trek that didn’t have to adhere to that formula!
I wouldn't say Prodigy is about beating nasty bad guys. Not more than, say, TNG was, or TOS itself (and for that matter, Lower Decks also has bad guys, and yes they get beaten). All those series had bad guys that needed to be beaten, without being all about them.
 
I’m sure he’s been trained in first aid
Yeah. Pretty much every academy graduate would have basic first aid training and be capable of picking the correct standard hypos.
On top of it, Riker has decades of experience. You pick up things during that time.
Some officers have additional training qualifying them as field nurses (Tom Paris) even if their core departments is something different like piloting or command.
No reason Riker could not have taken the same course.
 
First aid is one thing. Knowing which hypo, from several available, to choose to revive (that's not the right word but anyway) an injured, unconscious individual isn't credible, however much experience one gains from several decades in Starfleet and however sophisticated 24th century command-level first aid courses may be. IMO, at least; the mileage of others will (of course) vary.
 
Why not? Hypos are not some mystical incomprehensible thing.
They would be clearly labeled and ordered.
And it stands to reason that a number of standard dosages and types would be prepared and available at all times.
All you need to do is look over a doctor’s or nurses shoulder a few times and pay attention to these things.
And Riker did ask how sedated Crusher was. That wasn’t out of curiosity, he needed to know how much cordrazine (or whatever counters the sedation) he would need. so he clearly had an idea of what he was doing.
 
Just a passing thought, but with so many things so far, the devil is in the details with Riker and the hypo — just as with Jack Crusher, named for a man who was his fathers best friend as well as his mothers first husband, who picked up Picards accent because it looks like the only male human voice he heard growing up was from Beverly reviewing Picards logs as background entertainment (though that could *also* be setting up a more interesting twist possibly down the line) — for example, it is *highly* likely he picked up a *lot* of medical training when he was on Starfleet sabbatical looking after his sick and dying son. There’s no way he left all the childcare to Deanna, after all.
So there’s a quick explanation right there in the text, if you think about it long enough. And Malalas is details orientated — it’s obvious Raffi’s handler is Worf from day one, because those typed phrases and style are so very Worflike even put through the voice of the ship computer.
 
Ensign LaForge needs more screen time.

I’m not holding out much hope for that.

it’s obvious Raffi’s handler is Worf from day one, because those typed phrases and style are so very Worflike even put through the voice of the ship computer.

worf denying requests? He learnt something

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Shrike could well be a refit! From certain angles anyway.

Looks like a magig swarm ship.

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First aid is one thing. Knowing which hypo, from several available, to choose to revive (that's not the right word but anyway) an injured, unconscious individual isn't credible, however much experience one gains from several decades in Starfleet and however sophisticated 24th century command-level first aid courses may be. IMO, at least; the mileage of others will (of course) vary.

We have no idea how much medical training Riker got over the years. I have no problem with the hypo scene.
 
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