Good thing those are not my issues.
And while the ST is weaker, I still find value in it so I'm OK with what I wished for. Well, actually, I didn't wish for anything. I'm just happy with Star Wars. Absurdist, I know...
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And while the ST is weaker, I still find value in it so I'm OK with what I wished for. Well, actually, I didn't wish for anything. I'm just happy with Star Wars. Absurdist, I know...
I think what fans wanted from the prequels was Empire level quality and for the movies to be for young and old but without the overly cutesy stuff like the Ewoks and right out of the gate you had two of those things in Jar Jar and kid actor who can't act. It was also missing that everyone type in Solo and the CGI was just to much.
The sequels were suppose to give us one more adventure between our old legacy characters and some new ones to take over from them in second movie.
The sequels were suppose to give us one more adventure between our old legacy characters and some new ones to take over from them in second movie.
They were?
They weren't.
Since when?
I mean, yes and no. On the one hand, yes people want to see more of the heroes. On the other hand the OT ended perfectly. It was the perfect wrap up and the only way to follow that up was to invaribly upset the apple cart. Now, would I have done it the way the ST did? No, but no one asked me. The ST went with the same themes of Star Wars that have always been present-rebellion, camaraderie, distrust and then relationship building, with a side of redemption. No where in there is a requirement to have the heroes carry on on another grand adventure.
The ST was supposed to make Disney a lot of money. That's really the extent of the overarching thinking regarding the movie saga from the jump, and it never got any deeper than that, hence the very very risk averse narrative that has focus group stink all over it, and the overall lack of creative coherence.
It's why the "side projects" like Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian & Andor have been the more interesting products because they were allowed to take creative risks.
It's why the "side projects" like Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian & Andor have been the more interesting products because they were allowed to take creative risks.
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Every bit of this. The Sequels weren't about risks.
Every bit of this. The Sequels weren't about risks.
Yet I still enjoy them more than other projects, especially Rogue One.
Season 4 is already written
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I think from most fans perspectives that was what people where looking forward to. Disney clearly felt different and just wanted classic characters in as a marketing strategy to make people think they might be getting something like that.
I'm still (pleasantly) surprised that Andor was greenlit if I'm honest.
Of course at times Disney pulled back on those creative risks, hence Tony Gilroy coming in to rewrite and reshoot lots of Rogue One after the first cut was seen, and Lord and Miller being replaced mid production by Ron Howard, who for all his talent is one of the least risky directors you can imagine!
Pretty sure it wasn't Ron Howard's "safeness" that was the reason he was brought on, so much as his reliability and the fact he was already basically family to Lucasfilm.
When a pair of directors go rogue and start treating the several hundred million dollar franchise movie as their own personal indie sketch comedy, treating the production company's directives as "things you ignore until they go away", then you need someone experienced and reliable to come in to land the fucker in one piece, and land it he did.
Either way, it's only really the saga movies they were creatively risk averse. The anthology movies and later the D+ shows weren't dealing with known quantities so they were more free to be creative. Also the latter were explicitly meant to be trying to do something novel in order to draw subscribers to their new streaming service.
When a pair of directors go rogue and start treating the several hundred million dollar franchise movie as their own personal indie sketch comedy, treating the production company's directives as "things you ignore until they go away", then you need someone experienced and reliable to come in to land the fucker in one piece, and land it he did.
Either way, it's only really the saga movies they were creatively risk averse. The anthology movies and later the D+ shows weren't dealing with known quantities so they were more free to be creative. Also the latter were explicitly meant to be trying to do something novel in order to draw subscribers to their new streaming service.
Ok. Well, I guess I didn't go in expecting that so shame on me I guess...
They said "most fans". Are you "most fans" now? I didn't realise you all used just the one account. We'll have to check with you in the future when making generalised statements about the whole fandom.
I was not aware there was a general consensus.
Well, now you do!
And knowing is half the battle!
I think safe and reliable are interchangeable here, but probably the word I should have used was steady. He was a steady pair of hands, and I guess he did land the film, not sure he landed it in one piece and still not convinced that L&M's comedic improv version mightn't have been better. Solo was ok but it was incredibly bland which is probably the last thing Disney wanted, at least originally. I get that by the end they just wanted something coherent, but it is weird that Disney make a big deal of hiring inventive thinkers, then get spooked when they do the kind of thing they do best. Edwards, Lord and Miller and of course we never got to see Edgar Wright's Ant Man.
Not that this is just Disney. Eon hired Danny Boyle, a man distinctly unsuited to a blockbuster, then seemed surprised when it all broke down (and I do acknowledge the other side here. I get that L&M exceeded their brief and that Boyle is old enough and experienced enough to know what he was signing up to, but let's be honest here, if Disney had liked what L&M were doing they wouldn't have minded them going off piste in the slightest)
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