What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Lord Garth]

Anyway, if anyone wants to ask me anymore about it tonight's not gonna work. I just went to the pub and had some vodkas. Now I'm home and I'm having some rum. But no whiskey. Sorry Scotty!

I'm so glad the fucking weekend is finally here.

 

[Anduinel]

What he said. Count me as another who likes Rascals.

"He's my Number One Dad!" still gets a laugh out of me all these years later.

 

[Oddish]

Q. When is it acceptable to force Jean-Luc Picard to relinquish command?
A. When he has been altered by the Borg, and had his tactical knowledge used to destroy 39 starships, and is dealing with the aftermath.
B. When he has been severely traumatized and very nearly broken by days of brutal confinement and torture by Cardassians.
C. When he happens to be a little shorter and has hair.

If you have seen "Rascals", you know the answer.

 

[at Quark's]

To be honest, if my superior turned into what seemed a 10-year-old-boy and I had to follow him into potential life or death situations, I might have second thoughts as well, even if I could be convinced rationally he was still the same person. It may be partially biological.

 

[AresB]

There's no Star Trek series or movie that I don't like, and I refuse to put them in order of preference.

 

[Oddish]

To be honest, if my superior turned into what seemed a 10-year-old-boy and I had to follow him into potential life or death situations, I might have second thoughts as well, even if I could be convinced rationally he was still the same person. It may be partially biological.

Oh come now! He looked about 13.

There's no Star Trek series or movie that I don't like, and I refuse to put them in order of preference.

Wow... not sure if that's a controversial opinion, or the exact opposite.

 

[1001001]

So, put it in a spoiler tag.

Or, discuss it in the Picard forum, where it belongs.

Just a thought...

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Bear in mind my above quote from the same post. That I prefer Spock’s Brain doesn’t indicate a dislike for the others. Merely a preference.

I especially agree with you that What Are Little Girls Made Of is great. For whatever reason I just enjoy Spock’s Brain more… actually in terms of tone the two aren’t a million miles away from each other.

"Spock's Brain" did give viewers a nice ice world planet model, surface and the 1701's new viewscreen chart.

I mentioned there are three on the list that I actively think are shit. They are:

And The Children Shall Lead
The Way To Eden
Turnabout Intruder

"The Way to Eden" is not a bad episode, and as commentary, it was very far ahead of its time (the why Sevrin and his followers adopted their philosophy) it just happened to use hippie stereotypes as a familiar visual for audiences of the time.

Harry Mudd was a sociopath.

Mudd was predatory pimp / businessman exploiting a market the Federation (seemingly) pretended did not exist. That is an often missed point of the episode. His debut story did much to tell viewers that the 23rd century was not home to a utopian reality (*cough*TNG*cough*), and certain societal ills (e.g., selling flesh) are never going away.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

"The Way to Eden" is not a bad episode, and as commentary, it was very far ahead of its time (the why Sevrin and his followers adopted their philosophy) it just happened to use hippie stereotypes as a familiar visual for audiences of the time.

I put in on due to this discussion yesterday and while I still wouldn't say I like it, I at least found things to like. Walter Koenig is given something substantial to do and I actually forgot this, but Spock the countercultural figure stands with the counterculture. To them, Kirk is exactly the kind of boorish authority figure that was anathema to the hippy culture of the time. It's smarter than I remember, but in other places... stupider.

It passed 45 minutes. I didn't hate it.

 

[Tallguy]

Interesting that my saying "I still like Discovery better than Picard" isn't getting attention. In fact, these days, I don't think anyone saying that might be considered to have a controversial opinion anymore.

I think the needle has moved.

Maybe. I never liked Picard as much as Disco. But Picard has Patrick Stewart. Disco never had me wanting to throw things at my TV the way Picard has.

Mudd was predatory pimp / businessman exploiting a market the Federation (seemingly) pretended did not exist. That is an often missed point of the episode. His debut story did much to tell viewers that the 23rd century was not home to a utopian reality (*cough*TNG*cough*), and certain societal ills (e.g., selling flesh) are never going away.

Even TNG still had Okana.

But that's not why Mudd is a sociopath. He's a sociopath because the first time we meet him he was going to crash a starship with 430ish people aboard. (Why didn't Kirk tell the miners that if the Enterprise was coming down it was going to land on their camp?)

The second time he was going to give a planet full of totalitarian androids a starship, unleash them on the Federation, and strand those 430ish folk with little to no hope of rescue.

Mudd was not harmless fun.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Season 2 of PIC had a first episode that blew me away. By the end of the season I was wondering if the writing team had lost a bet.

IIRC, Season 2 was the way it was because of the pandemic. It restricted the filming they could do and even the actors they could cast.

 

[fireproof78]

IIRC, Season 2 was the way it was because of the pandemic. It restricted the filming they could do and even the actors they could cast.

Yup. Highly restricted, limiting number of people on set and redoing the story.

It was not good.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, it went off the rails by the end. The Q scenes with Picard in the season finale were among the season's sparse saving graces.

 

[Oddish]

I will say this for both Picard seasons... they took us through the darkness, but they tried to leave us in a bright spot.

 

[Tallguy]

Controversial Opinion:
The Where No Man Has Gone Before Enterprise is more attractive than the Series Production Enterprise.

I (finally) have both of them sitting on my shelf and the taller bridge and the markings just look better. I think I even like the larger sensor dish.

And if you grew up watching Star Trek most of the shots in the titles and the last shot of most of the episodes was the Second Pilot ship.

 

[Vger23]

Controversial Opinion:


I (finally) have both of them sitting on my shelf and the taller bridge and the markings just look better.

Pics?

 

[Vger23]

Yeah, it went off the rails by the end. The Q scenes with Picard in the season finale were among the season's sparse saving graces.

S2 of PIC is probably the only season of streaming-era Trek that I have no desire to re-watch.

 

[tomalak301]

S2 of PIC is probably the only season of streaming-era Trek that I have no desire to re-watch.

There were a few days where I was thinking about Rewatching Season 2, but it was incredibly hard. Then Wednesday Night/Thursday came and I just said screw it. Depending on how Season 3 turns out, I might rewatch it all when it's done, and that would also mean being able to binge watch Season 3 like a lot of people have already done.

 

[Lord Garth]

I've really been dragging my feet with finishing re-watching PIC Season 2.

 

[Paul755]

The only nu-Trek I haven’t rewatched is Discovery. Everytime I’ve tried, I get a few episodes into S1 and just can’t push thru.

I liked S4 a lot so I think I’ll skip the first three and just go with that before S5 premiers.