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Spoilers Theory - Crusher's assistant = ...?

From the TNG episode...
...after which Gates found out she's pregnant

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A Nemesis-era conception, she's in her mid-fifties and a few years past her natural reproductive capacity, and while I think 24th-century medical technology could artificially produce a viable egg for a post-menopause woman for in vitro, she's not having a child accidentally at that age and Jean-Luc would certainly be aware.
It's the future. How old was Lwaxana when she gave birth in DS9?
 
It's the future. How old was Lwaxana when she gave birth in DS9?
Lwaxana isn't human. That said...

Women are able to medically "pause" their menstrual cycles now. Perhaps in the future, pausing it also extends fertility beyond its natural end. If it's paused, the "goods" are still there.
 
May be too obvious writing...however...

It's implied in Attached that Crusher had no idea that Picard was in love with and/or had feelings for her.

They flirted/expressed possibility of expanding their relationship in episodes such as Allegiance (albeit the fake Picard), but it was never taken any further.

However, Crusher did leave the ship in season two.

What if they had sex during the Naked Now, and Crusher had the baby in season two?

It wouldn't retcon their relationship, as their 'act' was under the virus.

Of course, they could have gone further and made love anytime post-Attached, so that's a possibility too.

It would explain the Picard/Crusher conflict this season. I.e. she didn't tell him.

All pure guesses, and possibly too fanw**ky.

Thoughts..?
It's a bit too Carol Marcus
 
Gosh, I hope he's just her assistant. It was cringeworthy enough that they retconned Picard's mother so Young Picard had the same shitty childhood as Patrick Stewart. I don't care for another contrived backstory to make him Picard's son.
 
It was cringeworthy enough that they retconned Picard's mother so Young Picard had the same shitty childhood as Patrick Stewart. I don't care for another contrived backstory to make him Picard's son.
Patrick said that wasn’t the case.
 
It's also possible that he's
Riker's son, since they got very close when he was Odan
In all honesty...
...there were times in the 80s I thought Riker/Crusher would have been a more interesting pairing than Picard/Crusher and Riker/Troi. I'd have to rewatch early TNG to remember exactly why I thought that, though.

It's a bit too Carol Marcus
I'm going to toss out a wild idea.

As far as Beverly knows, Jean-Luc has always known that he has a son. As far as Jean-Luc knows, he's never known. The reason is the time-travel shenanigans of Season 2. The Picard from the beginning of Season 2 is from a universe where he and Beverly never had a child. The Picard at the end of Season 2 is in a universe where they did. The universe is basically the same, but also subtly different, and Picard (and the others who made that trip with him to the 21st-century) aren't aware of the differences. Time travel? Q's final gift? Either way, it solves some issues, namely Picard as deadbeat father, but also creates an interesting dynamic where Picard's past is no longer exactly the series (plural) we remember.
 
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In all honesty...
...there were times in the 80s I thought Riker/Crusher would have been a more interesting pairing than Picard/Crusher and Riker/Troi. I'd have to rewatch early TNG to remember exactly why I thought that, though.


I'm going to toss out a wild idea.

As far as Beverly knows, Jean-Luc has always known that he has a son. As far as Jean-Luc knows, he's never known. The reason is the time-travel shenanigans of Season 2. The Picard from the beginning of Season 2 is from a universe where he and Beverly never had a child. The Picard at the end of Season 2 is in a universe where they did. The universe is basically the same, but also subtly different, and Picard (and the others who made that trip with him to the 21st-century) aren't aware of the differences. Time travel? Q's final gift? Either way, it solves some issues, namely Picard as deadbeat father, but also creates an interesting dynamic where Picard's past is no longer exactly the series (plural) we remember.
Not a wild theory. I also guessed this over at TNZ. It was pretty obvious that's who this guy was. The interviews with Stewart said that picard would be angry at Beverly for hiding something from him. At that point we all knew what the something would be. The actor playing him seems to be a bit old though. Much older than 20 years. The "assistant" who really isnt one should be no more than 20 years at best. So yeah easy to figure out.
 
If, as some are suggesting the series is taking place around 2410 (which makes sense and explains how the F is being decommissioned, how Voyagers up to B already, and how the titan-A is 5 years old - then "jack" would be around 30 and closer to the actors age
 
If, as some are suggesting the series is taking place around 2410 (which makes sense and explains how the F is being decommissioned, how Voyagers up to B already, and how the titan-A is 5 years old - then "jack" would be around 30 and closer to the actors age

Possibly but then why would picard not say his comm badge was over 30 years old instead of 20. ?
 
Well.... it would STILL be over 20 years old

Even if the series was taking place in 2401, as season 2 did - then the combadge was still over 30 years old...Ent-D being destroyed in 2371, but by then they had the Ds9 style badges..

People don''t always speak with perfect accuracy, I mean I still feel like 1990 was 20 years ago at times.
 
then "jack" would be around 30 and closer to the actors age

But Beverly broke off contact 20 years ago. If he were 30, then she hid him for the 10 years she was still in contact with her crewmates.

I think we should ignore the commbadge reference. Obviously somebody got his math wrong. The computer gave a stardate for the commbadge so depending on when S3 is set it was almost 40 or 50 years old.
 
Frontier day being 250 years of starfleet suggest its 2411 as well. 250 years from the founding of the federation - and therefore federation starfleet.

If it was Earth starfleet it would be much earlier.

But that's a fair point on the not being in contact for 20 years - but theres nothing so far to day that her breaking off contact was because he was born, maybe his life became endangered later and thats when she broke contract.

But - I accept that doesn't explain why JL and Will don't seem to know he exists.
 
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I don't buy the Naked Now/Season 2 theory - are we supposed to believe Bev left the ship to give birth in secret, and then abandoned the baby to return to the Enterprise?

Either he's a post-Nemesis liaison, which would correlate with her cutting off the rest of the crew (though not explain it), or there's some other shenanigans going on.
 
Call me a sentimental old fool but I'd quite like it to be Picard's son. It would be a more optimistic outlook for Picard's family tree after Robert and Rene met their ends in GEN.

I know Picard and Crusher were always good friends during the series, and they eventually found out how they really knew about it each other. P/Cer for life. ;)
 
Whatever they've do to people in the 24th/25th century that has them living to 130 years could well mean women might remain able to conceive for a decade or so longer than we are used to. Many humans have some Augment DNA from the Eugenics era, La'an Noonien-Singh has proven there was no prohibition on those with Augment ancestors from serving in the fleet or having relationships and offspring with non-Augments. And, of course, massively improved healthcare, and 'nutritionally balanced' disease free replicated food.

This would explain the longer lifespan, different health conditions unknown to current day medical science (like Shalaft's Syndrome and Irumodic Syndrome), why most Humans look like they're from Hollywood Central Casting, and why kids are learning calculus at age 10.

If the year is truly 2411 (which I think makes sense) then Picard is 106 years old (I know he's physically a copy, but he's a copy with the same biological age). People remain 'vital' much longer than they do in our current time.
 
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Could be Jean Luc & Beverly's son from an alternate universe. He showed up in this one when he was already a child which explains the 20 year cut-off, but a son who clearly looks older than 20.

Whatever Beverly discovered with his appearance led to her cutting all ties and running away. Perhaps there's an ongoing plot from that alternate universe to replace their counterparts in this one hence the not trusting anyone.
 
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