What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[plynch]

I like Annihilate ok, but it has a dumb deus ex machina eyelids easyout solution. Spock shoulda been blind or recovering for three eps afterward.

I will not defend Eden any more here, because I have done so ad nauseam in the Before Times. There’s a lot of good character building and the sympathy Spock has for other outsiders is nice too. In some ways it’s a bit like season one where we see shipboard life, and the ancillary characters get actually developed a bit. Ha ha, I guess it looks like I started defending it. If you don’t like it, nothing I say will make any

 

[fireproof78]

Spock shoulda been blind or recovering for three eps afterward.

Damn. That's cold.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I like Annihilate ok, but it has a dumb deus ex machina eyelids easyout solution. Spock shoulda been blind or recovering for three eps afterward.

I gotta admit. Ending the first season on the cliffhanger of Spock being blind would have been quite dramatic.

I will not defend Eden any more here, because I have done so ad nauseam in the Before Times. There’s a lot of good character building and the sympathy Spock has for other outsiders is nice too. In some ways it’s a bit like season one where we see shipboard life, and the ancillary characters get actually developed a bit. Ha ha, I guess it looks like I started defending it. If you don’t like it, nothing I say will make any

We reach.

 

[cooleddie74]

"The Way to Eden" gave Chekov some very much needed character development and, sadly, within five episodes of the series' end. I'll always give it brownie points for being entertaining and funny and those factors place it in the upper tier of the "okay-to-good" Season 3 offerings.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Even the best of season three is noticeably inferior to the best from the earlier seasons. The show really suffered from the changes behind the scenes. It's night and day.

I don’t know about that. Spectre of the Gun, The Tholian Web and The Empath at least stand proud in my top 20.

I admit that Spectre… isn’t to everyone’s taste though.

 

[plynch]

I think S3 has more eps I love than S2. Requiem, Eden, SPECTRE (love it! might be my all-time favorite), Plato’s, Tholian. Mind I don’t say it has more better eps. Fondness and affection choose their own. Star Trek found me when a child, so certain eps really struck a chord for some reason, and still resonate just a few (okay, five) decades later.

 

[tomalak301]

I like Annihilate ok, but it has a dumb deus ex machina eyelids easyout solution. Spock shoulda been blind or recovering for three eps afterward.

Why is it a Deus ex machina? We learned from Amok Time that Vulcan was hot and bright. Vulcans throughout their evolution must of developed a way to adapt to the light. If not living on their own planet would have been incredibly difficult.

 

[johnnybear]

PLATO's STEPCHILDREN!!!!! It is the most awful hour of the series ever made!
People rant about Alternative Factor, Mudd's Women and others but they are bad only because they are out of place with the other episodes that surround them! Miri too is good and didn't deserve the BBC banning it after 1970!
Way To Eden is not a favourite but is okay to watch and is amusing in places with Kirk being Herbert and asking Spock what it means!
Spock's Brain might have scientific blundering throughout it's narrative agreed but it has the Trek vibe and feel.
And The Children may upset many fans but it has the children's redemption at the end where they are released from Gorgon's evil and begin to cry for the loss of their families. Gorgon may not be the best Trek villain but I never found his acting that bad to be honest and it's only that people in the US knew of him or came to know of him that spoils their opinions!
Plato has many embarrassing moments in it which I would be dubious about showing to my family or perhaps even a new convert to the series and I know it's meant to be written that way but it's just SO horrible!
But even Plato would get a watch from me on my many replays of the series. The original Trek is still the best in my opinion and I think it will stay that way!
JB

 

[Farscape One]

For years, I had no idea that he was Jack Ruby's lawyer. (It wasn't until around the early 2000s, actually. And by then, I had seen every episode of the franchise up to that point a bare mimimum of 8 times.) And I still thought that episode and his performance was just plain awful.

Believe me, it wasn't due to his lawyering that soured my opinion of him.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Vulcans lost the Romulan Civil War.

If you lose a war, you are not given a billion tons of steel and dilithum to wander off and find some where non radioactive to live.

 

[Farscape One]

The Vulcans lost the Romulan Civil War.

If you lose a war, you are not given a billion tons of steel and dilithum to wander off and find some where non radioactive to live.

You know, that's an interesting take on the Romulans leaving Vulcan. I don't think I have ever heard that one before, but it does bring up interesting possibilities.

 

[Tallguy]

The Vulcans lost the Romulan Civil War.

If you lose a war, you are not given a billion tons of steel and dilithum to wander off and find some where non radioactive to live.

Like like like... Like some kind of SPACE seed!

 

[fireproof78]

and it's only that people in the US knew of him or came to know of him that spoils their opinions!

Nope.

 

[Tallguy]

I'm finding out that this is apparently controversial. I thought Rascals was awesome.

Gorgon may not be the best Trek villain but I never found his acting that bad to be honest and it's only that people in the US knew of him or came to know of him that spoils their opinions!

Nobody knows who he is. But everyone knows he's not good.

 

[1001001]

PLATO's STEPCHILDREN!!!!! It is the most awful hour of the series ever made!
People rant about Alternative Factor, Mudd's Women and others but they are bad only because they are out of place with the other episodes that surround them! Miri too is good and didn't deserve the BBC banning it after 1970!
Way To Eden is not a favourite but is okay to watch and is amusing in places with Kirk being Herbert and asking Spock what it means!
Spock's Brain might have scientific blundering throughout it's narrative agreed but it has the Trek vibe and feel.
And The Children may upset many fans but it has the children's redemption at the end where they are released from Gorgon's evil and begin to cry for the loss of their families. Gorgon may not be the best Trek villain but I never found his acting that bad to be honest and it's only that people in the US knew of him or came to know of him that spoils their opinions!
Plato has many embarrassing moments in it which I would be dubious about showing to my family or perhaps even a new convert to the series and I know it's meant to be written that way but it's just SO horrible!
But even Plato would get a watch from me on my many replays of the series. The original Trek is still the best in my opinion and I think it will stay that way!
JB

I'm afraid you've used your allotment of exclamation points for the entire month.

Thank you!

 

[fireproof78]

I'm finding out that this is apparently controversial. I thought Rascals was awesome.

Same here. One of my favorite TNG episodes, which is a short list for me.

 

[Farscape One]

I'm finding out that this is apparently controversial. I thought Rascals was awesome.


Nobody knows who he is. But everyone knows he's not good.

Same here. One of my favorite TNG episodes, which is a short list for me.

Everyone has their own personal tastes and lists of episodes they love and hate, but I'm genuinely curious about this one: why do you both love "Rascals"?

(I suppose I'm asking you to defend the episode, much like I've done with "Masks" and "MOVE ALONG HOME".)

 

[fireproof78]

Everyone has their own personal tastes and lists of episodes they love and hate, but I'm genuinely curious about this one: why do you both love "Rascals"?

It's fun. Yes, it's ridiculous, and yes the Enterprise being taken over by the Ferengi as they were was silly. But, the whole episode is just fun. It has some positive elements of Ro Laren and Guinan, the kids successfully fighting back, and the hijinks of it make me laugh. It's just plain fun.

 

[Vger23]

I liked Rascals as a dose of silly fun. Is it premier sci-fi telelvision? No...not even close. But it has a little "wink wink" fun that TNG too often lacked...and thus it was at least an interesting and moderately entertaining episode for me.

It's fun. Yes, it's ridiculous, and yes the Enterprise being taken over by the Ferengi as they were was silly. But, the whole episode is just fun. It has some positive elements of Ro Laren and Guinan, the kids successfully fighting back, and the hijinks of it make me laugh. It's just plain fun.

It reminds me of DS9's "One Little Ship." Absolutely ridiculous, but also lots of fun.

 

[cooleddie74]

Trek needs to have more silly and campy fun. Not every story needs to have serious and lasting consequences and undertones.