Spoilers Bad Batch Season 2 - This Fall

[Christopher]

I get the feeling that might be another reason why they delayed the Bad Batch and released Tale of the Jedi instead. One, it gives us context to Dooku for when we see his old palace and how hypocritical he became with his War Chest, but also to set up Ahsoka being in Bail's Rebel service after roughly a year in hiding.

That one bugged me a bit, since it was basically retelling the events of the novel Ahsoka but in a way that conflicted with the specifics. Which belies the whole "everything is canon" notion, and besides, I liked that novel.

I found Tales underwhelming overall. The Dooku segments were fine, but too short. That story arc deserved a whole animated movie, maybe. I suppose maybe much of Dooku's backstory was already told in the books, but as the final Ahsoka episode showed, they're willing to overwrite the books.

 

[Set Harth]

That one bugged me a bit, since it was basically retelling the events of the novel Ahsoka but in a way that conflicted with the specifics.

TCW Season 7 already did that.

 

[Ithekro]

Could be said for a lot of fictional stories told and retold over the centuries. The specifics change, but the event is still more or less the same. Usually depending on the means of the telling or the audience the story is being addressed towards. Meaning the story is still the same, but from a different source telling it.

The impression I have of the Ahsoka novel is that it was made because it was felt that that tale would never be able to be told in animation. However, things have changed and the chance to tell that tale presented itself, but not with the means to tell it like in the novel. So, the basics of the tale were told via The Siege of Mandalor and Tales of the Jedi. Tales of the Jedi seems more likely to be just that "tales". A presented version of the story in a condensed form, perhaps taken with a grain of salt, thereby not overwriting the novel, just getting the basics out for those who have not the will or perhaps time to read said novel.

 

[Christopher]

The impression I have of the Ahsoka novel is that it was made because it was felt that that tale would never be able to be told in animation. However, things have changed and the chance to tell that tale presented itself, but not with the means to tell it like in the novel. So, the basics of the tale were told via The Siege of Mandalor and Tales of the Jedi.

As I understand it, the flashback segments in Ahsoka that showed brief glimpses of the Siege of Mandalore were adaptations of scenes from the scripted Clone Wars arc. When they finally made the arc years later, they naturally revised it a bit, because anything gets revised continuously until release. So the novel segments didn't entirely agree with the final version. But they were a minor part of the novel.

Tales of the Jedi seems more likely to be just that "tales". A presented version of the story in a condensed form, perhaps taken with a grain of salt, thereby not overwriting the novel, just getting the basics out for those who have not the will or perhaps time to read said novel.

One way of looking at it, I guess. But it still feels superfluous, since the story has already been told in more depth.

 

[Reverend]

I get the feeling that might be another reason why they delayed the Bad Batch and released Tale of the Jedi instead. One, it gives us context to Dooku for when we see his old palace and how hypocritical he became with his War Chest, but also to set up Ahsoka being in Bail's Rebel service after roughly a year in hiding.

However. The first time we see Rex in Rebels, he's in sort of retirement, and the Empire seems to want to just welcome him back when he's captured and identified on the Interdictor. No indication that he was some major Rebel in the past. Unless of course any Clone Rebellion was covered up (much like how the Empire suppresses anything about the Jedi), or Rex somehow wasn't implicated (like if the blame fell on Cody, for instance).

I suspect the main reason had more to do with not wanting to have Bad Batch & Andor overlap. Honestly I'm not sure how much say LF even has over the release dates; that may be mostly a Disney thing.

But yeah, getting a version of the "Ahsoka becomes Fulcrum" story out there could conceivably have been done in part to herald the way for a 'Bad Batch' appearance, or even to provide added context for the live action show that may make some reference to it, but not go so far as to depict it.

Could be said for a lot of fictional stories told and retold over the centuries. The specifics change, but the event is still more or less the same. Usually depending on the means of the telling or the audience the story is being addressed towards. Meaning the story is still the same, but from a different source telling it.

The impression I have of the Ahsoka novel is that it was made because it was felt that that tale would never be able to be told in animation. However, things have changed and the chance to tell that tale presented itself, but not with the means to tell it like in the novel. So, the basics of the tale were told via The Siege of Mandalor and Tales of the Jedi. Tales of the Jedi seems more likely to be just that "tales". A presented version of the story in a condensed form, perhaps taken with a grain of salt, thereby not overwriting the novel, just getting the basics out for those who have not the will or perhaps time to read said novel.

With this kind of thing, I'm often reminded of a quote by Terry Pratchett. What a story is depends mostly on context.
I don't see a fundamental clash between the TotJ version and the novel version. It's the same story, it's just that the TotJ version is more concise. As if say, Ahsoka were recounting the events to someone in 5 mins or less. Of course she would leave out the specifics of the personal dramas, her trip to Iilum, the whole thing with the Fardi clan on Thabeska, nor would she bring up Kaeden having an unrequited crush on her. She wouldn't even name her, or mention the sister. She'd just keep it to the broad strokes.
So both versions are true . . . from a certain point of view.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Star wars.com interview with Dee Bradley Baker.

https://www.starwars.com/news/dee-bradley-baker-bad-batch-season-2-interview

 

[Christopher]

Star wars.com interview with Dee Bradley Baker.

https://www.starwars.com/news/dee-bradley-baker-bad-batch-season-2-interview

From the interview:

“Most of the Bad Batch scenes, we just record straight through as written,” Baker tells StarWars.com. “It feels to me, I'm fond of saying, like jumping from rock to rock in a stream. Each is a clear entity. I can see it, I can feel their distinct difference so that they're like a real person, and I can just jump from one to the other.” It’s an acting workout to be sure, and Baker has a lot to do this season.

I would've been surprised by this if I hadn't recently seen the video of the Young Justice audio play the cast performed over Zoom for a convention before season 4 premiered. It was written to allow a few of the actors to have several of their characters conversing with each other to showcase how the actors could switch roles on the fly, which they did pretty much effortlessly. It's an impressive skill.

“Well, I think Hunter's style is one of careful consideration. He's not a hothead who jumps into things, he really wants to make sure that everything makes sense.

Which is ironic for a character who looks like Rambo.

 

[fireproof78]

Star wars.com interview with Dee Bradley Baker.

https://www.starwars.com/news/dee-bradley-baker-bad-batch-season-2-interview

The man is quite talented. While I never appreciated the voice work of the Clone Wars I am finding the Bad Batch incredibly remarkable in terms of showing Mr. Baker's talent. Him and Ang Lee, the voice of Omega, make the show an enjoyable experience.

 

[Christopher]

Him and Ang Lee, the voice of Omega, make the show an enjoyable experience.

You mean Michelle Ang.

 

[fireproof78]

You mean Michelle Ang.

Yes, I do.

 

[JD]

I watched the last two episode a few days ago, but hadn't gotten around to posting my thoughts yet.
The first one was a nice conspiracy investigation story, and the second half was really good to.
I was surprised to see Echo go, I wonder if we'll keep following him with Rex now, or if that's the last we've seen of him.
Was this the first time we've gotten a canon appearance by Bail Organa were he wasn't played by Jimmy Smits? Phil Lamarr did a pretty good job, but it was still obvious he wasn't Smits.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Phil Lamar has been the voice of Bail Organa throughout Clone Wars, Rebels and Tales of the Jedi.

 

[Christopher]

Phil Lamar has been the voice of Bail Organa throughout Clone Wars, Rebels and Tales of the Jedi.

Indeed. The only non-live action production where Smits played Bail Organa was the video game The Force Unleashed.

 

[Xerxes82]

I was surprised to see Echo go, I wonder if we'll keep following him with Rex now, or if that's the last we've seen of him.

The former, obviously. Crosshair remained with the Empire when they split and he's still a major character. I don't expect this to be any different. We'll check back in with Echo every so often and see what he and Rex are up to. If this status quo even lasts that long (points to Sabine's "departure" in S3 of Rebels).

If anything, this was just the writers giving themselves a reason to do more Rex episodes without needing to come up with a reason for him to keep crossing paths with the main group of the Batch. Now we're just following up on Echo like we were on Crosshair.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It's interesting that clone characters can come and go without impacting the voice cast.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's interesting that clone characters can come and go without impacting the voice cast.

It would be interesting to have an entire episode of the show in which Dee Bradley Baker's voice was the only one used.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been one yet. There've been a few that come close, like the Krell story arc in Clone Wars where there's only a few other actors besides Dee Bradley Baker in some of the episodes. But yeah, I'd also like to see an episode that's just him.

 

[Skywalker]

And, instead of just showing his name once in the credits, have a whole cast list of each character who appears in the episode, all with the name DEE BRADLEY BAKER listed beside them.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

And, instead of just showing his name once in the credits, have a whole cast list of each character who appears in the episode, all with the name DEE BRADLEY BAKER listed beside them.

 

[Tuskin38]

I wonder if he gets paid per clone voice, or only the ones with unique names.