Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

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  1. Enterprise1701

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    It's not that clear-cut. By Star Trek: Coda rules, the First Splinter's own mirror universe was tethered to the First Splinter despite nominally being spawned from a different sector of the multiverse entirely. Even the Captain Riker universe from Headlong Flight was a splinter attacked by the Devidians despite diverging in history before 2373.
     
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  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Temporal mechanics gives me a headache.
     
  3. Markonian

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    You and Janeway both.
    But you get used to it. Just give it...time.
     
  4. Allyn Gibson

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    I assumed the First Splinter propagated forward and backward in time from its creation. It had a beginning tied to a specific moment in time, and yet it also always was.
     
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    Technically, although the primary point of divergence was the events of First Contact in 2373/2063, there was also a secondary divergence point in 2168/4527 BC regarding the origin of the Borg, so the idea that there are "Splinters" with divergence points in the 2360s is hardly a surprise.
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    Bunch of audio logs to fill out some Season 3 backstory dropped.
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    The Enterprise-E's final mission was classified (I assume that's just so other writers can write that story). The Enterprise-F launched in 2386, 23 years earlier than it did in STO. Oddly they say the Enterprise-C's launch date is classified, and put the Enterprise-D's launch year as 2362, a year earlier than commonly accepted.

    There has only been 3 federation starships named Titan. USS Titan NCC-1777 - Shangri-La Class, launched in 2290 under the command of Captain Saavik, it was made the flagship under recommendation of Captain Sulu. The second being the Luna Titan, retired in 2398 (referred to as a Tactical Heavy Cruiser), and the third being the Titan-A coming in Season 3.

    Worf was captain of the Enterprise-E for a bit but stepped down after something called the "Monfette Gambit" (name after one of the show's writers)
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

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    RIP Lower Decks' Titan legacy wall.
     
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  8. Leto_II

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    Looks like this episode just officially blew up The Ashes of Eden -- during the end credits, we see a listing of starships housed in the Fleet Museum, and the Enterprise NCC-1701-A is one of them (alongside Janeway's U.S.S. Voyager). Then again, this is now consistent with that story from DC Comics' TNG Special #3 from 1995 ("Old Debts"), where 24th Century Scotty steals the Enterprise-A from the museum in 2369:

    https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Debts
     
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  9. Smiley

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    Enough airplane and spacecraft replicas exist in current museums that people can choose to believe either way. The Enterprise-A in the Fleet Museum could be the original or a mock-up.
     
  10. Sci

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    I mean, I always thought of the Shatnerverse as an alternate timeline anyway.
     
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    The original Excelsior is listed right under it, so that's One Constant Star out, too, barring the reproduction theory. Or some future writer that likes Ashes not noticing or caring and referencing the novel, since we're apparently not running a tight ship continuity-wise. I'd probably be a touch more annoyed if it wasn't in service of relentless movie-era-lover pandering.
     
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  12. Danlav05

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    this is canon (it isn't. but it is)
     
  13. mastadge

    mastadge Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Can't wait until we can just train AIs on the whole Star Trek TV and movie canon, feed them a novel, and have them spit out a rendered movie.
     
  14. Tuskin38

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    That's sounds terrible and an IP nightmare.
     
  15. Enterprise1701

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    How does that disprove the previous statement?
     
  16. Sci

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    It doesn't, and it's not intended to.
     
  17. Unimatrix Q

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    Could Vadic's bird soldiers in combination with a potential conspiracy that made Beverly go into hiding also partly be a hommage to the old Trek novel "Dreams of the Raven", beside the possible connections to Romulans, Changelings and the Blue Gills from "Conspiracy"? :whistle:
     
  18. David cgc

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    We're through the looking glass, here, people.
     
  19. Markonian

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    Just reread the relevant sections in the TNG novel Q & A. It provides questions and answers. There are quantum realities, tying back to the TNG ep “Parallels”. Technically, there isn’t a reason those 2389-era quantum realities couldn’t exist even with the Splinter timelines wiped out, because other quantum realities existed in “Parallels”, predating 2373.
     
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    That's a pity. I imagine we'll get to see the A then which will be cool and in line with the end of TUC but I like the glorious send off the ship got in Ashes of Eden. I wonder if they will show the NX refit?
     
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