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Episodes They Should've Done

A masterpiece society that isn't strong enough to survive a certain amount of disruption isn't a masterpiece at all.

I've wondered about that, yes. See these quotes:
CONOR: If even a handful leave, the damage to this society will be devastating. What about the rights of those who would stay behind? They are the ones who will inherit the social chaos that will follow for generations.

and

TROI: What will you do now?
CONOR: Attempt to assess the damage. Spend the rest of my life on the near impossible task of rebuilding this society without the proper pieces.

Now, unless Conor is talking here about the catalyst effect of the entire society unraveling because the first few start to leave and the others wonder whether they should follow that example, and is really only talking about that not even a few individuals can be missed because their society is engineered that way, how could that colony ever survive long-term in the first place? I mean, accidents that kill people prematurely are bound to happen every now and then.
 
The most obvious episode they should have done was the return of the alien slug creatures from Conspiracy. They built up their threat in the story and earlier on and even left the finale with a possible continuation but alas they never did bring them back or reference them again! :sigh:
JB
 
Probably dumped at the next starbase unceremoniously, after they made sure nobody was filming.
Maybe... or maybe other fates awaited these new arrivals.
Barash: His species had a 17-year lifespan... and he was alone in that holodeck for 16.9 of them, dying of old age soon after Riker picked him up.
Jeremy: Sent to live with Worf's dumping ground for unwanted childr... I mean human parents. But because he was well-behaved, they didn't send him back.
Timothy: It's never stated that his parents were his only family, so he probably gets quietly shuffled off to live with unknown relatives on Earth.
 
Whatever did happen to Barash, anyhow?
I'm guessing spent the rest of his days on a holodeck
Or Jeremy Aster
Worf probably sent him to live with the Rozhenkos [Edit - oops @Oddish beat me too it lol]
or Mirasta Yale
Probably got sent to the same "train a scientist from a primitive place" academy that someone must've sent Gillian Taylor, & the Bozeman crew. They must run into that individual refugees from god-knows-where crap all the time. Enter the entire cast of folks from The Neutral Zone
or Timothy from the Vico
Probably just lives on the Enterprise. :shrug: Evidently, parents, like the Potts parents of Willie & Jake, just leave their kids to fend for themselves on board, while they galivant all over the damn galaxy anyhow. Frankly, you can include season 2 Wesley in that group too.

I'd be interested to know wtf ever happened to the Emergence emergent being. I mean... maybe keep tabs on that damn thing, seeing how you have no damn clue at all wtf you just did there.
 
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I’d like to see a Short Trek with Riker’s final minutes aboard the USS Pegasus.
The interesting thing though is that none of the survivors had known what the ultimate fate of the ship & crew were until years later, during Pressman's salvage mission. I imagine Riker's real guilt began kicking in after seeing it with his own two eyes, that some had been alive after the explosion, & died from power failure. You have to wonder how long those people managed to stay alive. Knowing Starfleet personnel as we do, they extended forcefields, and rerouted power until it became hopeless. It's pretty gruesome really
 
Well for Voyager, have an episode where the ship gets trashed, and it actually shows them fixing the ship the next episode, or something like, we lost our water tank, etc.
 
The interesting thing though is that none of the survivors had known what the ultimate fate of the ship & crew were until years later, during Pressman's salvage mission. I imagine Riker's real guilt began kicking in after seeing it with his own two eyes, that some had been alive after the explosion, & died from power failure. You have to wonder how long those people managed to stay alive. Knowing Starfleet personnel as we do, they extended forcefields, and rerouted power until it became hopeless. It's pretty gruesome really

I was under the impression that the survivors believed the ship had been unambiguously destroyed (i.e. in a way that there wasn't going to be anyone to see alive after the explosion), but it has been awhile since I've seen the episode.
 
Neelix could have gotten infected and then beaten the crap out of everybody.

Or maybe Harry. Revenge of the Passed Over Ensign.

Not Harry. Even with parasite, Harry would still be a wimp.

Remember Evil Harry from Living Witness after beating that prisoner:

"
Look, I can keep this up all day. Tell the Commander what he wants to know.

<shaking his painful hand>

Maybe I can't keep this up all day."
 
I was under the impression that the survivors believed the ship had been unambiguously destroyed (i.e. in a way that there wasn't going to be anyone to see alive after the explosion), but it has been awhile since I've seen the episode.

Yes, they saw an explosion come from the Pegasus as they left the ship. They assumed it was destroyed, though the ship was really cloaking at the same time.

It drifted in its phased cloak state until it rematerialized inside the asteroid.
 
I was under the impression that the survivors believed the ship had been unambiguously destroyed (i.e. in a way that there wasn't going to be anyone to see alive after the explosion), but it has been awhile since I've seen the episode.
Right. They all presumed the ship blown to bits, after the escape from the mutiny. I was referring to the events of the episode itself, where Riker gets to see for himself the actual outcome, which was far more gruesome IMHO, where some lived through the blast and either dephased into solid rock, or were left stranded in ship sections that hadn't, and died a slow panicked death from space exposure

I bet on the day of the mutiny, and for the years afterward, those who fled thought like Pressman, before going back on board the Pegasus wreck years later, that he & they weren't to blame for the explosion, & there'd been some other negligence during the ensuing curfuffle that caused the explosion. No one had any idea that the cloak device itself had cause the explosion, which is likely why no one was punished for the loss of the ship. They assumed the mutineers were to blame somehow, which made it easier to sweep under the rug

So, Riker felt the loss of his comrades, & some shame, but when he saw with his own eyes the real outcome, that he'd supported a man who had been directly responsible for getting them killed, I bet his guilt skyrocketed after that. He didn't just aid a man who was in the wrong. He'd aided a man who'd fatally endangered them all, and fated them to a far more gruesome death than anyone had realized
 
Ah, I gotcha.

Since we don't know what exploded (or really what happened in the broader strokes beyond the phase cloak activating and then picking an unfortunate time to deactivate), it's hard to say whether anyone did survive it, though clearly nobody in any position to do anything meaningful with regards to where Pegasus ended up. I can't recall whether the episode references any hull breaches, but there's plenty of other ways to die on a starship. Perhaps the explosion released radiation that killed everyone in an instant. I would guess it must have been a pretty substantial explosion for Riker et al. to believe the ship had been destroyed, though.

For Pressman to say that he wasn't responsible for the explosion is a rationalization given that they shouldn't have been experimenting with the phase cloak to begin with. It's convenient to claim that someone else must have messed up, but that dodges his responsibility for what happened. I think the survivors knew very well that their experiments caused the explosion, and the reason why they weren't punished was because the mission was so secretive that to punish them would have attracted unwanted attention.

As a comparison, when Voyager crashes in "Timeless", I found myself thinking that some of the crew might have survived, at least until life support failed and they froze to death, but the evidence suggests that the impact killed the entirety of the crew.
 
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