Cara Dune

[fireproof78]

From what I understand they are waiting for the Indiana Jones movie to come out before she steps down in some kind of buyout. She has already signed a severance deal. I means their has been speculation before but this time it feels more legit and less fan wish fulfillment.

Yeah...this sounds like pure fan wish fulfillment. Buyout from what? Disney already owns LFL which means that Disney can fire her if they deem it necessary.

I don't really see it as them going scorched earth. They got the Mandalorian and the Ahsoka series around that are or will likely be popular. Plus the beauty of a multi-universe which is in essence what they would be creating is the ability to eat your ice cream and have it to. The Sequels can still exist and not exist at the same time. Abrams was very smart to do this with Trek because people would have been outraged if the Prime Universe was implied to simply been erased from all existence.

It absolutely is scorched earth. It's wish fulfillment pure and simple. Abrams did this and still got torn to shreds by Trek fans so it's not a good model to follow.

Again, if the PT didn't get wiped out the odds of this are infinitesimal in comparison.

She does seem to be someone Feige is grooming to replace him when he is ready to move on from the MCU. I think it's been said also Feige, as much as he likes the comics, is a bigger Star Wars fan so would likely jump at the chance to run Star Wars.

So, again, pure fan speculation.

 

[Ithekro]

The treatment the Prequels got was a series to flesh them out and a lot of missed context to retroactively make the story more impactful. The Clone Wars did a lot to elevate the Prequels, and from that we got Rebels and The Mandalorian.

The Sequels only had Resistance going for it as a story going on around the films, and I think because the films shifted so much, Resistance just couldn't deliver. If in the future, they make another series based on the Sequels era, or if the plan for The Mandalorian era of live action shows is to give the Sequels more context and impact, than one day the three films may hold a special place in the works of Star Wars.

The trouble will be making us care more about the Sequel characters. That was the gift The Clone Wars gave us. It fleshed out the story to allow us to understand and care about Anakin Skywalker and Obi-wan Kenobi in ways we could not with just the films. It also gave us context to Anakin's fall and his beef with the Jedi Council. The Sequels would need more context with Rey, Ben, Finn, Poe, and Rose to make their story more impactful. The main trouble with the Sequels in that regard is that the entire trilogy takes place in roughly a year...two at most. They don't have an epic three years of war between films, nor a ten year gap to have set pieces and a lot of background development. There is almost no time between Episode 7 and 8, and a year or so between 8 and 9. They mostly have the 30 years between Episode 6 and 7 to work with, and that's where The Mandalorian is working at present. Or they start to do something post-Sequel Trilogy to give use more with Rey, Finn, Rose, and Poe and actually let them breath as characters. Instead of defeating Palpatine as the payoff, we get to these characters post-war remaking the Galaxy, and the Jedi. A new beginning. Perhaps as a stepping stone to great adventures in the future of Star Wars. Like a few of the tales told in Visions could easily be in the future with Rey's Jedi.

 

[Set Harth]

He can be if someone new comes in and wants her to be.

 

[fireproof78]

Or they start to do something post-Sequel Trilogy to give use more with Rey, Finn, Rose, and Poe and actually let them breath as characters. Instead of defeating Palpatine as the payoff, we get to these characters post-war remaking the Galaxy, and the Jedi. A new beginning. Perhaps as a stepping stone to great adventures in the future of Star Wars. Like a few of the tales told in Visions could easily be in the future with Rey's Jedi.

Which would be ideal in terms of setting a new era and letting that become more defined.

The ST would benefit more from what the Mandalorian (and probably Ahsoka) in laying out the political details that the ST skipped over because the PT was so shellacked for having politics in Star Wars.

 

[Tuskin38]

From what I understand they are waiting for the Indiana Jones movie to come out before she steps down in some kind of buyout. She has already signed a severance deal. I means their has been speculation before but this time it feels more legit and less fan wish fulfillment.

Please provide a source that isn't a click bait shitfest of a website.

 

[Jayson1]

It comes from John Campea who it seems has two inside sources. Ones that have a high rate of being accurate. Campea is someone more reliable than Nerdrotic and the Doomcock's of the internet. He tends to have more reliable sources than the clickbait places. Not exactly Variety but not the neckbeard crown either. When you add in the return of Bob Iger and the firing of Chapek and it makes sense.

 

[fireproof78]

I trust him as much as I trust the other two. Give me proof or leave it in the dust bin.

When you add in the return of Bob Iger and the firing of Chapek and it makes sense.

To who? Iger took responsibility for messing up the ST, not respecting Lucas' treatments and the timing of Solo. So, he accepts Kennedy's resignation because...she is currently unsuccessful in making money with LFL?

Whatever people are smoking please send some by New Years.

 

[Jayson1]

He would accept it because we haven't had a new movie in like 3 years and Andor failed to become popular despite even having critical acclaim. Also if they were fine with the ways things were going Chapek would not have been fired.

 

[fireproof78]

He would accept it because we haven't had a new movie in like 3 years and Andor failed to become popular despite even having critical acclaim. Also if they were fine with the ways things were going Chapek would not have been fired.

That's Disney not LFL. What evidence, beyond hearsay and rumor, do we have of dissatisfaction?

 

[Tuskin38]

and Andor failed to become popular

What universe are you living in?

 

[Jayson1]

Andor is kind of like DS9. A good show that sadly isn't getting the respect it deserves. It' simply not popular to the mainstream. People will find it eventually but I think it might go down as Star Wars first cult hit.

LFL and Disney are the same now. DIsney owns LFL so whoever is in charge has to answer to them.

 

[fireproof78]

Andor is kind of like DS9. A good show that sadly isn't getting the respect it deserves. It' simply not popular to the mainstream. People will find it eventually but I think it might go down as Star Wars first cult hit.

LFL and Disney are the same now. DIsney owns LFL so whoever is in charge has to answer to them.

That doesn't answer any of my questions.

 

[Jayson1]

I would say the evidence is the general contempt expressed on the internet over Star Wars. It's always been high but it got worst after Last Jedi. Compare that with the general good feelings directed towards the MCU over that same time period. A point in which I think shows that the MCU has replaced Star Wars with younger people in modern culture as the number 1 big thing.

 

[Booji]

Jesus H Christ...

 

[Reverend]

So if I'm understanding this mentality correctly; the general idea is that if one repeats delusional horseshit often enough and forcefully enough, it will somehow manifest into reality? Is that what I'm seeing here? It sure looks like it.

 

[Set Harth]

I would say the evidence is the general contempt expressed on the internet over Star Wars. It's always been high but it got worst after Last Jedi. Compare that with the general good feelings directed towards the MCU over that same time period. A point in which I think shows that the MCU has replaced Star Wars with younger people in modern culture as the number 1 big thing.

The Last Jedi was definitely the place where general enthusiasm for the ST seemed to deflate, in contrast to TFA which was rather well received at the time. And I tend to think the positive reception of TFA had a lot to do with people wanting to get over the PT. For the better part of 20 years the prequels were the thing to hate, now the ST is the trilogy to hate. Even TCW was poorly received at first, until a light bulb went on and people realized it was another stick to bash the prequels with. So I'd say it's not about contempt toward Star Wars in general, but contempt toward specific projects at a given point in time.

 

[fireproof78]

I would say the evidence is the general contempt expressed on the internet over Star Wars. It's always been high but it got worst after Last Jedi. Compare that with the general good feelings directed towards the MCU over that same time period. A point in which I think shows that the MCU has replaced Star Wars with younger people in modern culture as the number 1 big thing.

That's not evidence.

 

[Jayson1]

So if I'm understanding this mentality correctly; the general idea is that if one repeats delusional horseshit often enough and forcefully enough, it will somehow manifest into reality? Is that what I'm seeing here? It sure looks like it.

It's not delusional. People get fired sometimes after doing a bad job. It's actually impressive she has held onto her job for as long as she has had. Her stay is not all that different from the one Rick Berman had with Trek. People kept expecting him to leave for years before he left.

In the end it's just a opinion. If she stays then it means she will just stay and things will be business as usual with Star Wars. If she goes then someone comes in and who knows what new vision they will have for it.

For me I think she should go but I don't care if she stays. I am more than happy with the Favreau and Filoni stuff and I am sure not going to complain if we get more Andor stuff. I would love to get some good movies again but if not then that is fine. Their is always fun stuff to watch outside of SW.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What universe are you living in?

Can you imagine a group of 8 year olds in a play ground playing Andor?

It's not delusional. People get fired sometimes after doing a bad job. It's actually impressive she has held onto her job for as long as she has had. Her stay is not all that different from the one Rick Berman had with Trek. People kept expecting him to leave for years before he left.

In the end it's just a opinion. If she stays then it means she will just stay and things will be business as usual with Star Wars. If she goes then someone comes in and who knows what new vision they will have for it.

For me I think she should go but I don't care if she stays. I am more than happy with the Favreau and Filoni stuff and I am sure not going to complain if we get more Andor stuff. I would love to get some good movies again but if not then that is fine. Their is always fun stuff to watch outside of SW.

Rick Berman had a ten year contract, to make and control all of Star Trek.

He was his own boss and couldn't quit. Although I suppose he did quit creatively for the final year after Jolene decided that he was creepy, but he was still the money man, deciding who the creatives were if it wasn't him.

All of Star trek had to be cancelled, so that he could not claim any intellectual rights, and cling on to the next ten years of Kelvin Trek. Enterprise was on it's last legs but I still wanted more, but less than a million people were watching the last episodes of the final season.

 

[Tuskin38]

I would say the evidence is the general contempt expressed on the internet over Star Wars.

That's not evidence at all.

Andor is kind of like DS9. A good show that sadly isn't getting the respect it deserves. It' simply not popular to the mainstream. People will find it eventually but I think it might go down as Star Wars first cult hit.

You've also provided no evidence of this. I see people talking about it everywhere.