Haven't seen the show yet, but it sounds like they did. You just don't like their version.
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The Witcher - Netflix
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I have not watched the show or read the books or played the games of The Witcher but The Umbrella Academy takes some large liberties from the source comics. That one seems to have been generally well regarded from what I’ve seen.
i was thinking of checking out Blood Origin if it can be watched standalone from the others.
Yeah, exactly. There's a balance to everything, ie depth and nuance making for more interesting characters. The character of Geralt may be a gruff individual, but he does have his delicate side, which should never count as a negative. If a grown man cries, it doesn't make them any less a man. It just means he's letting his emotions show. Never a bad thing.
I've enjoyed seasons 1 and 2, but for me watching beyond season 3 will depend entirely if Liam Helmsworth will be up to the task, or if it will be too much of a disconnect. My fear is that he'll just be a pawn into her agenda of going further off-course.
See, I hate how they've chosen how to handle this. Rather than treating Cavill as an ally with a love for the material that could have helped produce a better show, he's ousted as a nerd who's too passionate for the material. In any other world, this would be a great thing, something they could have used to their advantage. Someone that had a love for the material that ends up getting thrown under the bus. Would it have been so bad for them to maybe lend an ear? Instead it seems like the showrunner wants to do her own thing, which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing in normal circumstances, but what it sounds like she needs her own original show to work with where she can set the parameters rather than something already established.
It's going to be very interesting to see the results from Liam's run with the character or whether there'll be more trouble on the set.
EDIT: I should also mention that the Elves and Dwarves in The Witcher series are based on Sapkowski's portrayal of them in the novels -- I don't know enough about Eastern European Lore, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are based on stories from that region.
I don't know if this had been posted before or not, I didn't see it looking back so apologies if it was, but it sounds messy so I don't know if we've heard the whole story or not.
From https://www.nme.com/features/tv-int...lood-origin-interview-netflix-spinoff-3366830:
Did Cavill, a book devotee, put his foot down and demand no more changes to the source material? Or was it a simple schedule clash with his proposed (and since cancelled) return as Superman? Naturally, we ask Hissrich.
“We’re going to try and talk about that next year,” comes the firm reply, not from Hissrich, but a strategically placed publicist sitting in on the call. They seem to have expected the question.
“That’s exactly what I was going to say!” chips in Hissrich. “I do have a lot to say and I think that there’s a lot of, you know… we’ll obviously never get into exactly why Henry left, all of the reasons, but I can say it’s been a mutually respectful relationship… So please, please, please come back in six months when we can talk.”
Yeah, messy is certainly a good way of putting it. If for example, it's as if she says in that it's been mutually respectful, then the whole bruhaha about him being disrespectful should be put to bed. The more and more I hear about it, the more it sounds like someone on the sidelines who's been unhappy with him and spreading rumours. I'm glad there are those who worked with him that have come forward to say they've had good experiences with him.
"We're obviously never ever going to tell you what you want to know, but definitely come back in six months and ask us again!"
Maybe it's a pure stalling tactic, I guess we'll see. Here's hoping wherever Cavill ends up (Warhammer 40K?) he's happy to be there and they're happy to have him. I think we'd all like that for ourselves.
And I can see having to make changes for budget and pacing reasons. There's no way Ciri was going to be wandering around a desert on her own for three episodes for both those reasons, for example. Season 1 was fairly faithful to the stories, so I was expecting Season 2 to be similar--but instead Season 2 cherry picked scenes from Blood of Elves and Time of Contempt and then threw in twists all its own that seemed to fundamentally change the characters. This is why I asked back when it was airing if the season was taking material from other books as well.
Sure, adaptations need to make changes and they can be done well. The recent season of His Dark Materials did a really good job of that. The Umbrella Academy does a pretty good job of using the source material as a jumping off point. Westworld was an enjoyable adaptation that used the novel as a very loose foundation for its story.
I want to just say everyone is entitled to their own opinion and leave it at that, but your reasoning is so shallow and ridiculous that it makes it difficult. Well, I guess it's a plus that you're no longer whining about the show being feminized.
So what's the problem? Because the name has "Stone" in it, you assume it's a dwarf name? Please enlighten us on what a real elf name would consist of.
The actor playing Fjall is from Ireland. Some parts of the island (especially the North) often say "Aye" for "Yes", as they more commonly do in Scotland. Jonathan Rhys-Davies, who playe Gimli in LotR, is from Wales, where "Aye" is also sometimes used. It's entirely possible the two actors are just using their own words there.
Regardless, who shuts off a show in disgust after hearing a name and the word "Aye"? I've heard of some lame reasons for not watching a show any more, but that takes the cake.
We won't know the actual reason until way later if that, i.e, when one or both parties have retired from showbusiness and feel like writing their memoirs. No actor or producer currently working will talk openly about such an event because it's a career killer. Actors get a reputation for being difficult ( and with lesser status than Cavill may even get blacklisted) while Producers won't get new projects if they run such a big project into the ground.
All they say is PR speech at the moment if they say anything at all and it's no different that in any other job. I have recently quit my job but i will refuse to talk about the real reasons with anyone, only HR and my bosses know it and it will stay there.
Warhammer 40K is a done deal and maybe even more of a passion project for him than Witcher ( he's been following that universe for much longer than Witcher). As he's a ( the?) producer of that universe he will have much creative control but he'll also be responsible if it turns to crap. He lucked out twice to get passion projects and even if one turned sour it's more than many of us can say when it comes to our jobs.
There hasn't even been all that much PR speech about it either. Most of what we know comes from an unsubstantiated source full of he-said/she-said conjecture which may not even have anything to it, other than an intent to spread malicious rumours.
Watched Blood Origin and I get why some people might find it terrible, because... it kinda is, but I found it rather enjoyable as pure shlock.
The tonal shifts between ridiculous and serious (and I use the term loosely) are jarring at times, the plot is simplistic, the characters are more caricatures and Minnie Driver is barely in it, but it's entertaining enough and only 4 episodes long so it gets a passing grade from me.
The tonal shifts between ridiculous and serious (and I use the term loosely) are jarring at times, the plot is simplistic, the characters are more caricatures and Minnie Driver is barely in it, but it's entertaining enough and only 4 episodes long so it gets a passing grade from me.
I haven't watched Blood Origin yet--but my complaint about the second season was that it diverged so much from the books that I thought it included elements from the books I hadn't read at the time. I thought that it did the same thing that Game of Thrones did--once it went off and did its own thing the show's writers demonstrated that they just weren't capable of living up to the quality of the source material.
