DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Which can be done well, but that doesn't mean it always works. Blanket statements are rarely meaningful, because each case is different.
It's strange that people think the Rock is above a studio getting frustrated with simply because he's famous...
His antics may be more damaging to the potential sequel then the box office itself!
Edited to add: On thinking about it more, no, it's all about the money with WB, whether they're "upset" with him or not, it doesn't mean anything. Ezra Miller is all the proof we need of this.
His antics may be more damaging to the potential sequel then the box office itself!
Edited to add: On thinking about it more, no, it's all about the money with WB, whether they're "upset" with him or not, it doesn't mean anything. Ezra Miller is all the proof we need of this.
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Box Office numbers means Box Office numbers, not adding together every possible revenue stream to barely scrape into profit. So by that metric 'Black Adam' has been less successful than the third 'Fantastic Beasts' movie; and that wasn't enough to get it the final two films to finish the story.
While I agree, Johnson is contorting the numbers to save face, when we can all see the box office numbers, I also notice a trend in articles suggesting there are still factions inside the greater WB who do not have final say (if any say) in where DC movies are going, but who want to force people like Henry Cavill out, and are using industry journalism connections (who need to feed the ongoingly rapid news cycle) to try and push for their agenda. That's how articles like the recent THR one about the future of DC movies come to be, full of "speculations" and "rumors" that appear like thinly veiled wishful thinking. Somebody inside WB who is not Gunn & Safran (let alone Zaslav) has their own ideas of how DC movies should be done, and try to influence public opinion to create facts.
In the case of Cavill, Steve Younis and Michael Bailey of the Superman Homepage made a good point. Cavill has been very careful over the years with how he represents and what and even whether to promote Superman in movies. He did not participate in the promotion of the Snyder Cut, for example. So, if he publicly announces in the big way he did that he's "officially" back as Superman, it stands to reason that it is more than just the Black Adam cameo, that he has something in writing about future movies.
But, also as Younis and Bailey concluded, it's best to just let Gunn and Safran do their work for now.
In the case of Cavill, Steve Younis and Michael Bailey of the Superman Homepage made a good point. Cavill has been very careful over the years with how he represents and what and even whether to promote Superman in movies. He did not participate in the promotion of the Snyder Cut, for example. So, if he publicly announces in the big way he did that he's "officially" back as Superman, it stands to reason that it is more than just the Black Adam cameo, that he has something in writing about future movies.
But, also as Younis and Bailey concluded, it's best to just let Gunn and Safran do their work for now.
Irrelevant comparison, since superhero franchises do not necessarily require direct sequels (as in your Fantastic Beasts reference) fr any character to continue in the franchise. No one should convince themselves that the Black Adam character is not going to return in more films, whether its in a sequel or not.
Open letter from Patty Jenkins:
Seems more like more Zaslov nuking everything in sight as he has been since he showed up.
Whatta mess, btw for the record Gunn respondedOpen letter from Patty Jenkins:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1602843372846080000?cxt=HHwWgICj0cXjuL4sAAAA
Open letter from Patty Jenkins:
I'd be more inclined to believe her story if she hadn't impugned the integrity of the Hollywood Trades by describing their articles as "clickbait".
The proverbial “source” claims that Gunn and Safran are considering how to incorporate Matt Reeves’ The Batman into a wider DC universe. (Though there’s not a lot to corroborate this, other than the basic fact that I’m sure everything’s under consideration and on the table; doesn’t mean that it’s a priority or the like).
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/...eWgCZJ8XxQbo7N8FaVvI0IR2b9ITVziq4UapII4reG0Bg
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/...eWgCZJ8XxQbo7N8FaVvI0IR2b9ITVziq4UapII4reG0Bg
Who said she was talking about those? She could have been referring to genuine clickbait.
Stop jumping to conclusions.
Jenkins' "..there was nothing I could do to move anything forward at this time" reads as another way of saying its officially acknowledged that WW84 was a wrongheaded disaster (which was the film she said was under more of her vision/control than the original film), that Zaslav, et al., have no interest in risking such a valuable character placed in Jenkins' hands again.
If that is the reason behind her departure, then it was a wise decision.
If that is the reason behind her departure, then it was a wise decision.
Honestly I don't care why she left, I'm just glad she's gone, but after WW84 no one in their right mind would let her "vision" of Wonder Woman 3 get made. She was a decent director for the first film, but she's an awful writer who also gets shitty when people point out the stupid/horrible shit she did (from "WW is basically raping a guy" to "racist depictions of middle eastern people", WW84 isn't just a terrible movie, its outright inexplicably bad in many different ways). Now she has a dramatic letter about why she's left, its ridiculous. She was given huge creative control in the WW sequel and completely fucked it up, that would be enough reason to get rid of her, and they were still willing to let her make the third movie, just with less creative control, which is a lot nicer then they should have been.
Good riddance, don't let the door hit you on the way out, and if they end up doing another WW film, with Gadot or not, its basically guaranteed to be better then WW84.
Good riddance, don't let the door hit you on the way out, and if they end up doing another WW film, with Gadot or not, its basically guaranteed to be better then WW84.
So that's two different Batmans/Batmen(?) who shot scenes for Aquaman that won't be used...
