The fear and smallness of the Imperials as the population of Ferrix rose up against the garrison was visceral, just as most occupying troops of a tyranny throughout history look and behave small when the locals rise up to regain their liberty.
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Welcome to fandom. Fandom is extremely black and white, and if the latest and greatest gives them the right feels then it will be heralded as "the holy grail." Take it with a grain of salt.
Can you do the same in regard to my opinions?
Am I the only one that thought that for a moment there, Meero was going to get torn apart/beaten to death by the crowd? Denise Gough did a great job selling he sheer terror and desperation. For all her strutting around, projecting power; when it comes down to it she vastly overestimates her capabilities in the face of a real rebellion. Another recurring Imperial failing.
Mind you, that specific line made me think more of this.
Yeah it's been at the core of how the Empire is characterised ever since ANH. Everything is hyper-mechanised, harsh and all but colourless. Faceless almost robotic looking solders ruled over by cadaverous old white men. Hell, the Death Star itself was essentially a machine world. It was very deliberate on Lucas's part and echoes similar themes from 'THX 1138'.
Mind you, that specific line made me think more of this.
I do that with all opinions. None of us, least of all me, have the corner on what makes Star Wars Star Wars.
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My immediate reaction to that scene was very emotional, yes. I started tearing up as the people marched together, and then fought together to overcome a pervasive, evil foe. It was beautiful to see, it possessed a beauty in its own way.
So much political commentary being put down as only science fiction can really do in such large doses. I loved it.
Loved the end credit scene, but I have to wonder... Isn't it too soon to see it almost completed? They're still five years BBY, and at that point, for all we know, it had only been partially tested on Jedda and Scarif, and then on Alderan.
Then again, maybe that was mostly just outer shell and they were still dry walling and painting on the inside. The marble countertops from Naboo arrive on Tuesday.
Then again, maybe that was mostly just outer shell and they were still dry walling and painting on the inside. The marble countertops from Naboo arrive on Tuesday.
I imagine the Empire has the majority of the design ready, it is getting the Kyber crystals that is being problematic. Sometime during this same year, a group of rebels (Ghost) will intercept a shipment carrying a large crystal and destroy it. In the coming years Saw Gerrera, with elements of the Ghost's crew, will intercept another one and briefly attempt to track it its destination, before being forced to destroy it. One was even destroyed during the Clone Wars (by Skywalker and Kenobi). The mining/theft operations on Jedha and the core mining of Illum are all tied to the project.
The Rogue One prequel novel, IIRC, made a big point that the major delay was the superlaser, which had been an "insert ultimate weapon here" blank spot on the Separatist plans the Republic, and then the Empire, inherited, and that, while time-consuming, it was relatively easy to build, essentially, a really big, round, Star Destroyer. But the Death Star was also pretty much useless without a suitably spectacular weapon as the centerpiece. This may not even be the final superlaser that's being built, or at least not the final revision, and that they'd assembled and disassembled it many times trying to fine-tune it until we finally see the fully operational one installed in Tarkin's intro scene in Rogue One.
No, the thing has been basically done for ages. It's the laser that was giving them trouble right from the get-go, which is why Krenic hunted down Erso, and how he was able to consistently sabotage further progress for almost two decades.
Remember that the basic superstructure was already done by the end of the Clone Wars, and that was only after 3-5 years construction, give or take.
I thought she was a goner as well. I don't think I have seem more impressive acting of someone totally shook up since Tom Hanks in the final scenes of "Captain Phillips."
And ends with a whimper..
I'll give it 5 good episodes and 4 meh episodes and 3 horrible episodes.
Overall. Meh.. The writer said he wanted to show a self serving cockroach move to where he cares about the greater good. I didn't see it.. Nothing in the series did I see a spark, a moment where he changes.
And the mon mothma stuff.. Ugh..
Owell. Hopefully K2SO brings in some levity and fun in S2..
Come on next week!
WILLOW!!
I'll give it 5 good episodes and 4 meh episodes and 3 horrible episodes.
Overall. Meh.. The writer said he wanted to show a self serving cockroach move to where he cares about the greater good. I didn't see it.. Nothing in the series did I see a spark, a moment where he changes.
And the mon mothma stuff.. Ugh..
Owell. Hopefully K2SO brings in some levity and fun in S2..
Come on next week!
WILLOW!!
This entire series we're seeing the Empire, through its oppression and brutality, inflict on itself a self-fulfilling prophecy that culminates with Luke Skywalker and the Rebel Alliance.
And the Galactic Empire felt realistic and bureaucratic, and while most Imperials come across as officious and buffoonish, they have such crushing industrial/institutional might behind them to compensate.
And the Galactic Empire felt realistic and bureaucratic, and while most Imperials come across as officious and buffoonish, they have such crushing industrial/institutional might behind them to compensate.
Well, this aged poorly. But, given how jam packed the finale was, there was absolutely no room for anything else!
Although technically Blevin DID appear!
Its finally over, thank the fucking Force.
What a giant pile of shit. Literally irredeemable, a show made by people who loathe Star Wars for people who loathe Star Wars. It didn't even bother to tie up any plot points, hell it didn't even really explain most of them. I still don't fucking know why the evil "Rebels" want to kill Andor, it seriously just can't be because he saw a few faces and heard what are probably code names. Mon Mothma's plot was like a narcoleptic hamster on a wheel, going nowhere slowly. Andy Serkis was literally meaningless to the show, they just stuck Andor in prison with him presumably because they wanted to put any semblance of plot involving Andor into a complete stop for half of the (horrendously padded, overly long) season. The Imperial Agent and the Bureaucrat were just fucking terrible, but at least the Imperial Agent kind of had a point.
To make matters worse, none of the terrible characters died (the blonde evil Rebel could easily have been killed), and at the end Skarsgard (I don't remember the characters name, Luthien or something similar), who originally hadn't even wanted to kill Andor (it was his shitty assistant who put the hit out, from what I could tell she did it on her own initiative), not only went full "Kill Andor", he then didn't fucking do it, presumably because he'd just read the script for Rogue One and knew Andor was needed for it to work. Then we end the season showing the Death Star, presumably to remind people that this is still pretending to be a show set in the Star Wars universe, and isn't just someone's unproduced modern day Earth set "political thriller" with some Star Wars elements shoved in to get Disney to pay for it
What a dreadful, dreary, anti-Star Wars pile of shit. Of course the snobs who love "Prestige Dramas" are loving this show, its the biggest hate letter to Star Wars as a franchise that has ever been officially made. I definitely won't be watching season 2, and I hope the viewership is so low (which apparently it is, snobs ranting and raving is apparently not helping the show with actual Star Wars fans) that after the (probably contractually mandated at this point) Season 2 we never see a pile of crap like this connected to Star Wars ever again.
What a giant pile of shit. Literally irredeemable, a show made by people who loathe Star Wars for people who loathe Star Wars. It didn't even bother to tie up any plot points, hell it didn't even really explain most of them. I still don't fucking know why the evil "Rebels" want to kill Andor, it seriously just can't be because he saw a few faces and heard what are probably code names. Mon Mothma's plot was like a narcoleptic hamster on a wheel, going nowhere slowly. Andy Serkis was literally meaningless to the show, they just stuck Andor in prison with him presumably because they wanted to put any semblance of plot involving Andor into a complete stop for half of the (horrendously padded, overly long) season. The Imperial Agent and the Bureaucrat were just fucking terrible, but at least the Imperial Agent kind of had a point.
To make matters worse, none of the terrible characters died (the blonde evil Rebel could easily have been killed), and at the end Skarsgard (I don't remember the characters name, Luthien or something similar), who originally hadn't even wanted to kill Andor (it was his shitty assistant who put the hit out, from what I could tell she did it on her own initiative), not only went full "Kill Andor", he then didn't fucking do it, presumably because he'd just read the script for Rogue One and knew Andor was needed for it to work. Then we end the season showing the Death Star, presumably to remind people that this is still pretending to be a show set in the Star Wars universe, and isn't just someone's unproduced modern day Earth set "political thriller" with some Star Wars elements shoved in to get Disney to pay for it
What a dreadful, dreary, anti-Star Wars pile of shit. Of course the snobs who love "Prestige Dramas" are loving this show, its the biggest hate letter to Star Wars as a franchise that has ever been officially made. I definitely won't be watching season 2, and I hope the viewership is so low (which apparently it is, snobs ranting and raving is apparently not helping the show with actual Star Wars fans) that after the (probably contractually mandated at this point) Season 2 we never see a pile of crap like this connected to Star Wars ever again.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. I never really got around to watching Clone Wars, so I missed that.
Totally agree on the first part. It was unnecessary and the kind of dumb fan service that the show has been completely above up until that point.
I don't think she's setting him up to "take the fall", rather she's just trying to come up with an explanation for the missing money that'll satisfy the Empire and keep them off her back.
After all, it's not a crime to lose your own money gambling.
It is, however, a little odd that Mothma did both the gambling ploy AND the Davo Sculdun introduction. No need to explain away your missing funds twice.
It was in Star Wars Episode 3 not Clone Wars. They meant the actual war not the show.
