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Spoilers Andor season one

The EU was 98% crap and any loon who thinks it is better than the OT has removed themselves from the conversation for all time.
A bunch of the Star Wars novels ended up on NYT Bestsellers List. Many have been nominated or even won awards for SF novels. And some of them were utter crap, no doubt.
Personally I loved the Rogue Squadron comics and novels, the Timothy Zahn novels and some of the other books. Some of them were awful some of them were great.
 
Personally I loved the Rogue Squadron comics and novels, the Timothy Zahn novels and some of the other books. Some of them were awful some of them were great.

That's a pretty accurate cherry-pick of the EU for me as well. Zahn and Stackpole, and very little of the rest.
 
Okay, here, the real conundrum come awards time:

Who gets the Emmy, Serkis or Skarsgaard?

I mean, Jesus. SW as a franchise almost doesn't deserve the quality these two bring to the screen.
 
Come on. There's no "we shall see." You've seen the show thus far. We're ten episodes in. There's a net zero chance we see Vader in this show. Utterly ridiculous.
Didn't the show runner basically say that he's not at all interested in any cameos? This is a show about the nature of rebellion, with a side plot condemning the prison industrial complex. Not the "OMG its Vader!!!!" show.
 
Ok so the prison story - how exactly did the empire think they would cover-up the prisoner transfers? They do know the prisoners talk, right?
 
Come on. There's no "we shall see." You've seen the show thus far. We're ten episodes in. There's a net zero chance we see Vader in this show. Utterly ridiculous.
When it comes to fan service I always expect it to win out. I hope to be wrong, but I lack the confidence you have. So, yes, I guess I'll see. You already know, apparently.
 
When it comes to fan service I always expect it to win out. I hope to be wrong, but I lack the confidence you have. So, yes, I guess I'll see. You already know, apparently.
We all know. They straight up said so.

Not that I usually believe "official sources". But I believe this one.
 
I hope so, but despite its different approach people still expect fan service.
Literally nobody who is still watching Andor this far into the season is expecting a single shred of fan service. This show is basically tearing Star Wars apart. Fan service would stick out like a sore thumb here (which is why it might actually work).
 
Literally nobody who is still watching Andor this far into the season is expecting a single shred of fan service. This show is basically tearing Star Wars apart. Fan service would stick out like a sore thumb here (which is why it might actually work).
"Literally no one..."

Well, guess I'm the no one in this equation. Nice to know.

And this show is tearing Star Wars apart? Well, no need to watch it then. I thought I was watching an interesting show exploring the politics of the Empire hinted at in A New Hope. But, instead it's a deconstructive piece on Star Wars. I'm good then. Enjoy your deconstruction and no fan service. :beer:
 
Ok so the prison story - how exactly did the empire think they would cover-up the prisoner transfers? They do know the prisoners talk, right?
I think the idea was that the prisoner was supposed to be transferred to a different, presumably more secure prison, but by mistake he was returned to one where everyone still thought they were getting out at the end of their sentences.
 
Uh, I’m about 75% sure Vader will make an appearance. Not a cameo — that he’ll be part of the story. Was he a cameo in Rogue One? Was his role in Rogue One not fucking awesome and made you actually fear him like you did as a kid? No? We’ll you’re a cynical one and I find your lack of faith disturbing. Also obnoxious. I absolutely loved Vader in Rogue One, and I did not feel he was a cameo or out of place in the story in the slightest. I don’t think I’d care if he didn’t show up, I certainly don’t care if he kills Luthen or not, but given how high and how problematic this Rebellion gets for the Empire, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he’ll show up. He’ll, I’d be fascinated to see how this series does Vader and the more metaphysical aspects of the lore, precisely because of how impressed I am with how they’ve done everything else so far.
 
Okay, here, the real conundrum come awards time:

Who gets the Emmy, Serkis or Skarsgaard?

I mean, Jesus. SW as a franchise almost doesn't deserve the quality these two bring to the screen.

The only person who had appeared in a Star Wars production and received an Emmy or Oscar nomination was Sir Alec Guinness. That's it. I don't see Hollywood doing this again for "Andor".



Didn't the show runner basically say that he's not at all interested in any cameos? This is a show about the nature of rebellion, with a side plot condemning the prison industrial complex. Not the "OMG its Vader!!!!" show.

Saw Guerra wasn't a cameo?



It is mostly crap. And I'm throwing stones at the pedestal of Star Wars being special and must be special.

Are we all supposed to accept this declaration as a fact?


Since I was a kid, so around, 2001, 6-7. Started with the OT but mixing it with the prequels as they came out, saw the og clone wars show....


Then why did you continue to keep following it, if you don't like the Force?

I haven't been following this thread long so I don't know what flaws you pointed out other than what for me amounts not to a flaw but a choice: they didn't want to tell a story about Jedi and Sith, princes and magics. Other shows are doing that, and that's not what Rogue One focused on. This series is about something else, and you can enjoy it or not. The fact that it's in the Star Wars universe does not mean it has to be about certain aspects of it.

If you haven't read my previous posts, why do you assume that my only problem with "Andor" is that it isn't about the Jedi, the Sith, princes and magic? Why didn't you just backtrack and see what my issues were? Although "Rogue One" had Darth Vader in it and "Solo" only had Maul in one of its last scenes, both movies had featured very little about the Force. But I enjoyed both films very much. I have enjoyed a good deal of "Andor". But I have my complaints about the series, just as I have expressed my complaints about other Star Wars productions in my reviews and posts elsewhere. I'm getting tired of this attitude that no one should be complaining anything about "Andor".
 
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Was his role in Rogue One not fucking awesome and made you actually fear him like you did as a kid? No? We’ll you’re a cynical one and I find your lack of faith disturbing. Also obnoxious. I a
We can't all be in love with maniacal killers or fan service that doesn't feel natural in the story. And if that's cynical so be it.
Are we all supposed to accept this declaration as a fact?
None of this is fact. It's pure opinion and a lot of knocking about for daring to question Star Wars or the awesomeness of the latest darling. It was Rogue One, then the Mandalorian, now Andor. And I don't fall in to lock step with any of it.
 
Dee1891 said:
Although "Rogue One" had Darth Vader in it and "Solo" only had Maul in one of its last scenes, both movies had featured very little about the Force.
Don't forget, Rogue One also had Chirrut and his omnipresent Force mantra.
 
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