Spoilers Andor season one
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My brain: but how many of them are going to St. Ives?
The movie had already established she'd been trained in teras kasi, which (terrible video game origins aside) is meant to be a martial art created for the express purpose of combating force sensitives. So I think it's less of a hint she's trained in the ways of the Force, and more that she's been taught about those who have. A subtle distinction, but an important one. So she's somewhere between Sabine and Chirrut.
In fairness he wasn't meant to be a deep and interesting character in TPM. He was a henchmen. There to embody the physical threat of Sidious as opposed to the purely existential threat of his manipulations. In that sense he's on about the same level as Boba Fett in the OT; a one dimensional character with a striking visual design there to fulfil a function and nothing more. Which is fine because these particular stories aren't about Maul (or Boba), it's about Anakin and Padme (as is ever the case in the prequels.)
I would rate him lower than Fett, and that's saying something. But, you do have a point about his function in the story.
Fair point.
'Allowing'? He asked for it.
I skipped through the thread, so I didn't see what other people thought of the last episode, but I liked it.
Damn, that torture they used on Bix seems pretty nasty.
Is Syril attracted to Meero?
I'm still trying to get used to actually seeing Andy Serkis as a regular human. The build up to his turn at the end was pretty good. Definitely looking forward to seeing how they break out of the prison.
Holy crap, Vel is Mon Mothma's cousin! I did not see that coming at all.
Damn, that torture they used on Bix seems pretty nasty.
Is Syril attracted to Meero?
I'm still trying to get used to actually seeing Andy Serkis as a regular human. The build up to his turn at the end was pretty good. Definitely looking forward to seeing how they break out of the prison.
Holy crap, Vel is Mon Mothma's cousin! I did not see that coming at all.
Stunning episode and series.
"I can't swim". Oh man....
I feel like this is Star Wars I could recommend to anyone. That I could sit down and watch with anyone because it's not about Star Wars, it's about the story that's taking place within that world. Whether the setting is in space or in the 20th century they both still resonate because of the writing.
"I can't swim". Oh man....
I feel like this is Star Wars I could recommend to anyone. That I could sit down and watch with anyone because it's not about Star Wars, it's about the story that's taking place within that world. Whether the setting is in space or in the 20th century they both still resonate because of the writing.
Exactly what everyone wants from Star Wars: A show that has basically nothing to do with Star Wars, that could easily be transplanted into a modern day show with only a few slight (and mostly cosmetic) changes, and is just as badly written and boring as every other nearly identical "prestige" show that gets shat out every year.
I just want fun and adventure and characters that aren't dull, soulless flesh golems wandering around spouting monotonous bullshit and accomplishing nothing. At this point I'm apologizing for every criticism I gave towards Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi, at least they were actual Star Wars shows that fit in the universe and had interesting things happen. I hope they don't take the snobs praising this show as motivation to make more boring, pointless shit like this, thats really the only way that Disney could "ruin" Star Wars, by giving in to the people that never liked the franchise in the first place.
I just want fun and adventure and characters that aren't dull, soulless flesh golems wandering around spouting monotonous bullshit and accomplishing nothing. At this point I'm apologizing for every criticism I gave towards Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi, at least they were actual Star Wars shows that fit in the universe and had interesting things happen. I hope they don't take the snobs praising this show as motivation to make more boring, pointless shit like this, thats really the only way that Disney could "ruin" Star Wars, by giving in to the people that never liked the franchise in the first place.
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Here's the thing-the story of the original Star Wars could take place anywhere, and did if you believe Joseph Campbell. It was the monomyth, and Lucas took various inspirations, including Vietnam as the Rebels vs. the American Empire. I could translate Star Wars to anywhere and it would work.
Number two, franchises need to stop being so fucking insular. The Mandalorian was not fun by Season 2 because it was constantly drawing upon characters I either didn't know about or didn't care about. So, instead of appealing to me as an audience member, it took me for granted as a Star Wars fan and assumed I had watched it all. That's ridiculous.
Maul was supposed to be the baddie in his Sequel Trilogy. I like the arc they gave him in Clone Wars/Rebels. I like how interesting they made the character once he was broken from Sideous.
I haven't bothered to read 46 pages of comments. I just binged the series and wanted to share my comments. So I don't know if they are in line with this Trek site or not.
Pacing. I thought for a supposed 2 season arc that build up to Rogue One that this season moved too slow. I get the purpose of the story and it feels like the same Cassian Andor from Rogue One, but I felt they spent too much time on the heist mission and too much time in the prison. What did he do with his 200,000 credits? I loved that he was apprehended for doing nothing but walking and sent to prison for 6 years without any trial. That shows where the Empire is and how evil it is, but the time in the prison should have been compressed and the season should have ended during or after his escape (because face it, he will escape). They could have had so much tension if the ISB realized he was in an Imperial prison as he was escaping and they were sending agents only to find him gone. I really didn't feel that this season lived up to Cassian saying "I've been in it [the fight against the Empire] since I was 6 years old."
In comparison to the other live action series. This is definitely inferior to The Mandalorian and Obi-wan Kenobi. I think it is better than The Book of Boba Fett (that series was a mess - great story, but inconsistent story telling and it really is just The Mandalorian series 2.5). I think this series really could have used some of Lucas's "faster and more intense" energy.
Pacing. I thought for a supposed 2 season arc that build up to Rogue One that this season moved too slow. I get the purpose of the story and it feels like the same Cassian Andor from Rogue One, but I felt they spent too much time on the heist mission and too much time in the prison. What did he do with his 200,000 credits? I loved that he was apprehended for doing nothing but walking and sent to prison for 6 years without any trial. That shows where the Empire is and how evil it is, but the time in the prison should have been compressed and the season should have ended during or after his escape (because face it, he will escape). They could have had so much tension if the ISB realized he was in an Imperial prison as he was escaping and they were sending agents only to find him gone. I really didn't feel that this season lived up to Cassian saying "I've been in it [the fight against the Empire] since I was 6 years old."
In comparison to the other live action series. This is definitely inferior to The Mandalorian and Obi-wan Kenobi. I think it is better than The Book of Boba Fett (that series was a mess - great story, but inconsistent story telling and it really is just The Mandalorian series 2.5). I think this series really could have used some of Lucas's "faster and more intense" energy.
This week's episode only reinforced why this is my second-favorite Star Wars streaming series and one of my favorite parts of the Disney Era of the franchise.
Basically this and the coming Acolyte are experiments in making different kinds of shows set in the Star Wars Galaxy that don't have to be action-adventure. It is taking a universe and allowing the writers and directors to tell whatever kind of story they want without being hampered by a genre. They touched on that with Clone Wars by telling different kinds of stories, but they are expanding on the idea that you can tell any story within the "lived in" setting of Star Wars.
Battlestar Galactica tried that with Caprica, but it didn't go so well. That may have also been that they didn't expand the setting enough before hand. Star Wars has been expanding the setting for decades now.
Battlestar Galactica tried that with Caprica, but it didn't go so well. That may have also been that they didn't expand the setting enough before hand. Star Wars has been expanding the setting for decades now.
Which is something that writers and comic books and video games have done for decades now, and has only more recently trickled in to the actual shows themselves. This is why things like Andor don't bother me-I don't go in expecting Star Wars. I expect a story told in the Star Wars universe. Lucas envisioned a "used universe" something very much solid, lived in and real.
This is why Clone Wars really was up and down for me. There were times were it felt very much for anybody to come in and sit down and enjoy as a solid war story. And then there were times were times it was very much "This is for the fans!" and very insular and self-referential. Even as a fan of Star Wars, it was very off putting because if you missed on piece of the story you could be lost.
I appreciate this approach far more for two reason: one, it allows people who want that mature sensibility in Star Wars to have something they feel they can enjoy. Not everyone likes animation or the like, and it's nice to have this option. And two, it's nice to have Star Wars that people who are not in to science fiction can sit down and just enjoy without worrying about the lore. It harkens back to the original Star Wars which spoke to this vast world but didn't worry about it if you were not up to speed. Just enjoy the film as it is. Same with this series.
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Have you ever tired not being condescending and rude to people who like things you don't?
There are a ton of Star Wars fans who like this series, including ones that liked Kenobi and Boba, it isn't just 'snobs' as you so rudely put it. Including people in this very thread, so you're insulting people on this site.
And what about Andor doesn't fit in Star Wars? It has everything that belongs in Star Wars minus any force users.
There's still 2 episodes left.
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