Will Sam Beckett Return Home? NBC Orders Quantum Leap Reboot Pilot

[Guy Gardener]

At this rate(ings), I hope they shoot the final episode with a couple alternate endings. One that may bring Ben home with a personal victory,and perhaps some conclusion for Sam, even if we don't see him or bring him back too. They were filming when I was at Universal Studios two weeks ago, and on the tram tour I got to peek into an open studio door and see... the wooden backsides of the 2022 control room set. :P

Mark

The nielsons accounts for streaming now, and have done for a while.

Raw streaming, Total live viewers + 5 days and total live viewers + 10 days.

The nelsons supply very simple data to the trades gratis, so that advertisers know where they want advertise, but the networks have to hand over a mountain of cash to understand their actual standing in the immediate climate down to the second and the decimal.

 

[Christopher]

So astrology becomes kind of scientifically legit?

Huh? We're talking about the influence of gravity on spacetime trajectories. That's closer to orbital mechanics (or the tides) than astrology.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Huh? We're talking about the influence of gravity on spacetime trajectories. That's closer to orbital mechanics (or the tides) than astrology.

Gravity generated by planets, and constellations in specific locations, that are moving, in relation to other planets and constellations that are generating gravity and also moving.

Location, location, location.

 

[The Knappos]

Gravity generated by planets, and constellations in specific locations, that are moving, in relation to other planets and constellations that are generating gravity and also moving.

Location, location, location.

Yeah, and that’s how astrologists know that Geminis are going to have a shit day and lose a friend

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, and that’s how astrologists know that Geminis are going to have a shit day and lose a friend

Umm... no.

 

[Tuskin38]

So astrology becomes kind of scientifically legit?

No. Astrology has always been pseudoscientific bull.

 

[The Knappos]

I’m sorry, you dropped something. Looks like a sense of humour

 

[E-DUB]

I remember the original proposed ending for the last season of QL:TOS was supposed to have Sam go to the future. Now, Ian thinks that Ben is trying to build up temporal momentum (they really should use that term) to get to the future. Coincidence?

 

[Marc]

I remember the original proposed ending for the last season of QL:TOS was supposed to have Sam go to the future. Now, Ian thinks that Ben is trying to build up temporal momentum (they really should use that term) to get to the future. Coincidence?

that reminds me.

When Ben leaped to the 19th century the comment back at the Project was it shouldn’t have been possible but have they directly mentioned Sam’s string theory about travelling within one’s lifetime.

Though these days people might think of string theory as the physics concept (anyone who watched Big Bang Theory for example). Wiki tells me that while the concept has been around since the 60s it didn’t really takeoff until the mid 90s (pretty much after QL finished).

 

[Christopher]

Though these days people might think of string theory as the physics concept (anyone who watched Big Bang Theory for example). Wiki tells me that while the concept has been around since the 60s it didn’t really takeoff until the mid 90s (pretty much after QL finished).

On the contrary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_string_theory#1984–1994:_First_superstring_revolution

The first superstring revolution is a period of important discoveries that began in 1984... Discover magazine in the November 1986 issue (vol. 7, #11) featured a cover story written by Gary Taubes, "Everything's Now Tied to Strings", which explained string theory for a popular audience.

So at the time Quantum Leap was created, string theory was already a buzzword in popular coverage of science, and Bellisario undoubtedly copied the term from that -- although, as with the term "quantum leap" itself, he didn't pay any attention to what the phrase actually meant.

 

[Marc]

On the contrary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_string_theory#1984–1994:_First_superstring_revolution


So at the time Quantum Leap was created, string theory was already a buzzword in popular coverage of science, and Bellisario undoubtedly copied the term from that -- although, as with the term "quantum leap" itself, he didn't pay any attention to what the phrase actually meant.

Here's an idea.

Instead of quoting wikipedia in response to what's pretty much an aside, how addressing the main point - have they direction mentioned Sam's string theory that was the basis for Quantum Leap as to why Ben shouldn't have been able jump so far into the past rather than just saying it shouldn't be possible.

 

[Christopher]

No, they haven't mentioned the original series's idiotic misuse of the term "string theory," and I pray they never do. The new version is making more of an effort to use valid scientific terminology, so hopefully the original show's wince-inducingly bad technobabble will not resurrected.

 

[FreezeC77]

I don't think there's an explanation. For the original when Sam went back to the 1800s I think they used some kind of 'near genetic duplicate' for an ancestor or something... but that's certainly not the case here.

I guess it just comes down to the 'new calculations/programming' and whatever Ben came up with.

He's basically already leaped outside of his lifetime three times. 1981, 1977, and 1879. He's 35 years old in the show and from 2022. That puts him at 1987 with the earliest possible conception being in 1986. So anything pre-1986 would be before he existed.


I actually think a better explanation would have been if they used some kind of technobabble (who knows maybe throw in a temporary quantum entaglement) and said Ben accumulates a 'longer jump trajectory' based on who he leaps into.

Goes back to 1987 and into the body of a 40 year old guy. So now it opens up to 1937, etc...

Obviously that's not what happened here since he went to 1879.

 

[The Wormhole]

IIRC, the episode where Ben went to the 1970s, the team back in 2022 did make note of the fact that's outside his lifespan and that there are supposed to be safety protocols to prevent such a Leap.

 

[Marc]

IIRC, the episode where Ben went to the 1970s, the team back in 2022 did make note of the fact that's outside his lifespan and that there are supposed to be safety protocols to prevent such a Leap.

Where as in the original series it was a limit of Sam's theory rather than a protocol (Leap Between States aside

 

[Christopher]

IIRC, the episode where Ben went to the 1970s, the team back in 2022 did make note of the fact that's outside his lifespan and that there are supposed to be safety protocols to prevent such a Leap.

Where as in the original series it was a limit of Sam's theory rather than a protocol (Leap Between States aside

Maybe it's both. Maybe in the decades since, they've studied that Civil War leap and figured out how to redesign the system to get around the lifespan limit, but it's riskier to jump that far back, so they installed safety protocols to prevent it until they figure out how to do it safely.

 

[Tosk]

IIRC, the episode where Ben went to the 1970s, the team back in 2022 did make note of the fact that's outside his lifespan and that there are supposed to be safety protocols to prevent such a Leap.

Which is weird because when he leaps further back they act like it's impossible. The show is not being terribly consistent in regards to what can or can't be done...which makes it fit right in with the original series.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I remember the original proposed ending for the last season of QL:TOS was supposed to have Sam go to the future. Now, Ian thinks that Ben is trying to build up temporal momentum (they really should use that term) to get to the future. Coincidence?

I still don't understand why Sam or Ben would want to leap to the future. What could they possibly do there that they can't do in the present?

 

[Tosk]

I still don't understand why Sam or Ben would want to leap to the future. What could they possibly do there that they can't do in the present?

Ben would still have the advantage of being in someone intimately involved in the situation. Or if the leap involved a catastrophic situation, he could be in someone with special access to something that the average person wouldn't.

With Sam now leaping as himself, I'd imagine he just helps people wherever he goes. The timeframe makes no difference, he just wanders from town to town like the Littlest Hobo/Incredible Hulk/Michael Landon/etc.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ben would still have the advantage of being in someone intimately involved in the situation. Or if the leap involved a catastrophic situation, he could be in someone with special access to something that the average person wouldn't.

With Sam now leaping as himself, I'd imagine he just helps people wherever he goes. The timeframe makes no difference, he just wanders from town to town like the Littlest Hobo/Incredible Hulk/Michael Landon/etc.

I had this nightmare scenario.

120 horrible things happened in Knight Rider, team Knighr Rider, TV movies and the sequel with Val Kilmer as KITT, ALMOST sequentially.... But what if it all happened at the same time?

Worse still what if 120 bad evil Scooby Doo plots happened every week, all across small town America, and Knight Rider only stops 1 out of 120 evil plots a week, which would be 52 plots out of 6, 240 evil plots per annum.

America is a cesspool of mustache twirling robber barons, and Flagg ain't nothing but a band aid with half its stickiness worn off.

PS.

The Littlest Hobo fucks.

In his wake he left 16 puppies in every small town where he saved the day, to continue guarding the inbred morons or rural Canada.

14 seasons x 22 episodes x 16 puppies = almost 5000 littlest hobos generation 2 protecting the universe.

Safest fictional universe ever.