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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

F. King Daniel said:
Did anyone else notice that it's the old Man of Steel suit he's seen wearing, with the bigger S and none of the writing in it which was introduced in BvS then in JL?
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Probably the suit they had at the time. I heard it was last minute his involvement in the movie.
 
thribs said:
Probably the suit they had at the time. I heard it was last minute his involvement in the movie.
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So what happened was, they filmed the big scene with a stuntdouble, not even knowing if he was coming back. When it was confirmed, they shot the scene in literally a different country and edited Cavill's head on the stuntdouble.
 
Mage said:
and edited Cavill's head on the stuntdouble.
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Can you link to a source on that? Other accounts seem to indicate that it was shot with a double on the final day of additional photography and framed to be headless (a la Shazam) but when Cavill was finally on board they re-shot his half of the scene. I'd be curious for any interviews that give more specifics or context to that.
 
Tosk said:
Can you link to a source on that? Other accounts seem to indicate that it was shot with a double on the final day of additional photography and framed to be headless (a la Shazam) but when Cavill was finally on board they re-shot his half of the scene. I'd be curious for any interviews that give more specifics or context to that.
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Unless my extremely tired brain is not reading this right.....
https://www.joblo.com/black-adam-behind-the-scenes-of-that-cameo/

Again, keep in mind English is not my native language and I could be misreading this after a 7 day workweek

EDIT* The more I re-read it, the more your view on it makes sense...... I'm really sorry.
 
Not really. It’ll just be a movie gig. He could still play Gerald in between.
He could still play Bond as well
 
Mage said:
Unless my extremely tired brain is not reading this right.....
https://www.joblo.com/black-adam-behind-the-scenes-of-that-cameo/

Again, keep in mind English is not my native language and I could be misreading this after a 7 day workweek

EDIT* The more I re-read it, the more your view on it makes sense...... I'm really sorry.
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Certainly no need to apologize, I only seek knowledge.

The author of that link does say "and then transplant his head on the body double" but if you go to the actual Hollywodd Reporter article they got their info from, it doesn't read that way. ...Plus, Cavill just released a photo of himself in the costume. :)
(I wonder if the MoS suit was chosen as it was the one that best fit his current physique, or if it was just in the best condition...or just the easiest one to access.)

M'rk son of Mogh said:
Feel bad in retrospect for the Shazam and Peace Maker crew who had to settle for the headless/in shadow cameos.
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I'm just glad that Sandberg and Gunn helped keep Superman "alive" in the DCEU.
 
Cavill on returning as Superman. - 1:19 - 2:00.

"Hey, everyone. I wanted to wait until the weekend was over before posting this. Ahh, because I wanted to give you all a chance to watch Black Adam. But now that plenty of you have, I wanted to make it official--that I am back as Superman, and image you see on this post, and what you saw on Black Adam are just a very small taste of things to come. So, there's a lot to be thankful for, and I'll get to that in time, but I want to thank you guys most of all, thank you for your support, and thank you for your patience. I promise it will be rewarded."

His announcement is the gift that keeps on giving for the DCEU.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Cavill on returning as Superman. - 1:19 - 2:00.

"Hey, everyone. I wanted to wait until the weekend was over before posting this. Ahh, because I wanted to give you all a chance to watch Black Adam. But now that plenty of you have, I wanted to make it official--that I am back as Superman, and image you see on this post, and what you saw on Black Adam are just a very small taste of things to come. So, there's a lot to be thankful for, and I'll get to that in time, but I want to thank you guys most of all, thank you for your support, and thank you for your patience. I promise it will be rewarded."

His announcement is the gift that keeps on giving for the DCEU.
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I sincerely hope this happens. My only concern is that regimes seem to change at Warner these days like I change my socks, and Cavill could suddenly find himself persona non grata again under the next new leadership.

But hopefully this next item might promise a little more stability:
wayoung said:
James Gunn and Peter Safran are now in charge of DC projects.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...r-safran-to-lead-film-tv-division-1235248438/
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I really enjoyed The Suicide Squad, though I wouldn't want that film's tone applied to a lot of characters, including Superman. No reason to expect that just because Gunn's on the executive side, I suppose.

And hey, Gunn and Safran's statement actually mentions Superman before Batman:
“We’re honored to be the stewards of these DC characters we’ve loved since we were children,” Gunn and Safran said in a statement. “We look forward to collaborating with the most talented writers, directors, and actors in the world to create an integrated, multilayered universe that still allows for the individual expression of the artists involved. Our commitment to Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Harley Quinn, and the rest of the DC stable of characters is only equaled by our commitment to the wonder of human possibility these characters represent. We’re excited to invigorate the theatrical experience around the world as we tell some of the biggest, most beautiful, and grandest stories ever told.”
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Will wonders never cease?
 
James Gunn is quickly becoming one of my favorite writer/directors, so this is great news as far as I'm concerned. I have a feeling he'll probably let the other directors who come onto the projects do their own thing, and won't force them all to mimic his style.
 
wayoung said:
James Gunn and Peter Safran are now in charge of DC projects.
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For some reason or another, I'm not terribly surprised by this news. Out of all the potential names bandied about for the position, his seemed the obvious choice. Now, let's hope the studio will give him the time to craft his vision of instead of wanting instant blockbusters.
 
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Christopher said:
That's because you're looking at it from the tail end. Smallville started at a time before superhero movies ruled the box office, when comic-book-based projects were still considered something of a disreputable niche. So the original intention of the series was to reinvent the Clark Kent story without any comic-booky elements at all -- "no flights, no tights" -- and present it in a form palatable to mainstream audiences, something more in the vein of Dawson's Creek or Roswell. The same principle as the same network's short-lived Tarzan adaptation that was reinvented as a New York City detective drama -- take the characters and premise, but strip away all the genre elements in favor of something more conventional and crowd-pleasing. The express purpose was to transform the concept into something palatable to audiences who had no interest whatsoever in superhero comics, who didn't even know the show was inspired by Superman (and there were indeed fans of the show who did not know that).

But as Smallville went on, it changed massively in its approach. It ran so long that it drained its original premise dry, so it had to draw more ideas from the comics in order to sustain itself. And by that point, superhero movies had become more popular and respectable anyway, so the show didn't have to try as hard to conceal its comic-book roots. So in retrospect, people look at it as a heavily comics-influenced show. But I'm talking about the original intention of the show in its early seasons, when it aggressively avoided anything that even hinted at superhero comics.
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No, even just looking at the first seasons, I wouldn't label Smallville something that bears little resemblance to the source material.

The problem there is making it a blanket generalization -- whether "they" would be better off, as if every one would have exactly the same result. That is utter nonsense. As I said already, quality is not determined by category. If it were, then everything of a given type would be equally good or bad, and that is obviously not true. Look at all the cases where one movie or show is a huge hit, and a dozen attempts to copy it are flops. It's not what you do that matters, only how well you do it. The ones that are "better off" are the ones that are done well, and whether they use existing character names or change them is a trivial consideration by comparison. That's the surface, not the substance.
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I don't believe in hard rules for fiction so in principal I actually agree. In actual practice though, I'd be hard-pressed to find examples of "in name only" adaptations that wouldn't have been better off as original works. (Which again, is not the same thing as not finding them good. I think some of them are great!)
 
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