What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Birb-of-Prey]

The Federation is too heavy-handed in its blanket ban on genetic alteration.

 

[Oddish]

It seems to permit correcting defects, as was the case with Miral's spinal curvature.

 

[cooleddie74]

And still ran the Darwin Genetic Research Station in "Unnatural Selection(TNG)," which, yes, was written before the franchise's producers established the post-Eugenics Wars genetic manipulation ban but is still a canon episode and shows that the Federation and Starfleet conducted procedures and research that would otherwise have been illegal and punishable under the criminal code.

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

Star Trek and the Known Space Universe are two windows into the same thing, which is why "The Slaver Weapon" doesn't need ret-conning.
Frankly, same thing with the Star Fleet Universe (some people point out that the SFB universe uses octants instead of quadrants, but its like miles vs kilometers.)

 

[F. King Daniel]

Star Trek and the Known Space Universe are two windows into the same thing, which is why "The Slaver Weapon" doesn't need ret-conning.
Frankly, same thing with the Star Fleet Universe (some people point out that the SFB universe uses octants instead of quadrants, but its like miles vs kilometers.)

In the old 1980 Star Trek Maps, Ringworld is at the edge of Federation space.

 

[Oddish]

And still ran the Darwin Genetic Research Station in "Unnatural Selection(TNG)," which, yes, was written before the franchise's producers established the post-Eugenics Wars genetic manipulation ban but is still a canon episode and shows that the Federation and Starfleet conducted procedures and research that would otherwise have been illegal and punishable under the criminal code.

And it reinforces the point: genetic manipulation = BAD!

 

[Farscape One]

It is. It is remarkably easy to get so much wrong when tinkering with genetics.

 

[cooleddie74]

It makes me wonder how much member worlds like Denobula had to give up when they became part of the Federation. Phlox stated in ENT that Denobula had engaged in both genetic research as well as cybernetic technology for bodily implants so I don't know if the planet's leaders had to crack down on that research or at least reclassify them so they no longer stood out as being in violation of Federation law.

 

[Farscape One]

We don't know if Denobula became a Federation member.

 

[Oddish]

Or if they gained a few exemptions because Denobula a founding member. Remember that in the Terra Prime two-parter, in addition to the main four races, there were two or three other delegates, including a Denobulan.

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

Or if they gained a few exemptions because Denobula a founding member. Remember that in the Terra Prime two-parter, in addition to the main four races, there were two or three other delegates, including a Denobulan.

Who were the others?

 

[cooleddie74]

I could totally buy that they received some legal exemptions because of how important they were to the Coalition of Planets before and likely during the Earth-Romulan War.

 

[Oddish]

Who were the others?

According to Memory Alpha...

Initial talks for the formation of the Coalition took place on Earth in San Francisco, and the participants included dignitaries from United Earth, Vulcan, the Andorian Empire, Rigel, Denobula, Coridan, and Tellar Prime. (ENT: "Demons")

 

[Paul755]

well, their genetic and cybernetic stuff was done for medical purposes right. It’s not like they tried to remake their species like Humans did.

 

[Turtletrekker]

And still ran the Darwin Genetic Research Station in "Unnatural Selection(TNG)," which, yes, was written before the franchise's producers established the post-Eugenics Wars genetic manipulation ban but is still a canon episode and shows that the Federation and Starfleet conducted procedures and research that would otherwise have been illegal and punishable under the criminal code.

My head canon is that they were given an exemption as their techniques were totally different than the ones used during the eugenics wars. Of course, in the end it still ended disastrously, thus reinforcing humanity's distrust of the concept.

 

[Farscape One]

If it was indeed a Coridan at the signing, that is proof that Denobula may not even have been a member because in "JOURNEY TO BABEL", Coridan was not a member world and was apparently a hotly debated issue.

An ally, perhaps, but definitely not a member.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm re-watching some old Star Trek episodes before I dive into re-watching PIC Season 2.

The episodes I chose were: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday", "Assignment: Earth", "Where No One Has Gone Before", "Family", and "Tapestry". I watched the first three of those last night. I'm heading into "Family" momentarily...

... except -- and here's where the Controversial Opinion kicks in -- I kind of don't want to. I don't feel like watching something soapy and non-adventure-y. "Family" is a good episode. It is. But it's a little too much "down to Earth" for me. I get it. They needed a breather after "The Best of Both Worlds". That's fine. But at the same time, I'm kind of like, "Ehhhh... " I have to be in the mood to want to watch it.

EDITED TO ADD: Just watched all the Picard scenes in "Family", so I split the difference.

 

[Toril Toran]

The Federation can't interfere in any domestic planetary social system. They can't tell Denobulans, or any other Federation member not to do such experiments.
They can suggest that they discontinue the experiments.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've said some negative things about DSC on here so I want to clarify my controversial opinion:
DSC is fine TV show, but it's not Trek. And it, along side, PIC, SNW, and assorted, won't be until and unless they say its in an alternate timeline.

Yeah, that's not how it works.

 

[FormerLurker]

I don't know what the books history of Ro have to say, but in my head, I think she was sent on an undercover mission to expose the Maquis and the Cardassian violations of the treaty. She was later taking as many of the Maquis as she could and kept them moving and hiding to avoid the Dominion. She never betrayed Picard, she just had to follow orders from those above him, and that was the true pain she felt. Yes, it hurt her to see the Cardassions killing. Yes, having her friend die right in front of her hurt her, but it was not being able to tell Picard she was doing no less than he would were their situations reversed, trying to salvage the fragile treaty with the Cardassians. I also think that if she hadn't met Picard that one last time and he told her if she couldn't do it he'd have her pulled from the mission and replaced she would have told him everything to get his blessing and then continue with her mission. Picard was the father she lost. She wanted to make him proud of her.

I agree with every word you said- er, typed.