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Spoilers Andor season one

"End that species." You mean did Palpatine commit genocide against the Gungans? We know he didn't, we see several Gungans celebrating the Empire's defeat on Naboo in the DVD version of ROTJ, one of them even yells out "Weesa free!"

Those were the last few survivors perhaps. They will all be extinct within a hundred years.
 
I disagree but that is okay. Nothing wrong with have difference of opinions.
I see the point you're making, but part of the outline you post is that it is quite focused on Obi-Wan, and only Obi-Wan. While an understandable approach, what I find with Star Wars is the tend towards more and more myopic storytelling, focusing on the three mains, and only those three. Except, if the franchise is to continue on then broadening the scope of storytelling is very important. Like in Clone Wars and the inclusion of Ahsoka and Rex as an expansion of points of view.

Obi-Wan could easily have been a singularly focused character piece and fine for it, but limit the scope to characters already known. But, Vader, and Obi-Wan's choices, had an impact on many other people and actually defined those moments in their lives, even as they tried to move on from their own wounds. (Insert M. Bison meme here).

What I appreciate about all the Disney shows, even the Mandalorian, adds such incredible color to the larger galaxy, and the people beyond the mains, or even add to the depth of past lines that might seem minor in the past. Leia's whole relationship with Obi-Wan takes on a new depth, a sweet history, and how Obi-Wan impacted her life. How he watched over Luke, and moved from a wounded and defeated Jedi to the strong and confident protector who would face down Maul and then sacrifice himself with confidence he could continue to support his charges.

Again, my opinion, and yours is welcome. But, I think that shows like Obi-Wan Kenobi and Andor show way more life to the galaxy than just the main characters. The galaxy becomes a real place.
 
I see the point you're making, but part of the outline you post is that it is quite focused on Obi-Wan, and only Obi-Wan. While an understandable approach, what I find with Star Wars is the tend towards more and more myopic storytelling, focusing on the three mains, and only those three. Except, if the franchise is to continue on then broadening the scope of storytelling is very important. Like in Clone Wars and the inclusion of Ahsoka and Rex as an expansion of points of view.

Obi-Wan could easily have been a singularly focused character piece and fine for it, but limit the scope to characters already known. But, Vader, and Obi-Wan's choices, had an impact on many other people and actually defined those moments in their lives, even as they tried to move on from their own wounds. (Insert M. Bison meme here).

What I appreciate about all the Disney shows, even the Mandalorian, adds such incredible color to the larger galaxy, and the people beyond the mains, or even add to the depth of past lines that might seem minor in the past. Leia's whole relationship with Obi-Wan takes on a new depth, a sweet history, and how Obi-Wan impacted her life. How he watched over Luke, and moved from a wounded and defeated Jedi to the strong and confident protector who would face down Maul and then sacrifice himself with confidence he could continue to support his charges.

Again, my opinion, and yours is welcome. But, I think that shows like Obi-Wan Kenobi and Andor show way more life to the galaxy than just the main characters. The galaxy becomes a real place.

I actually agree in general about Star Wars shows. Not every show needs to be focused on just a single character. I would also like more stuff without Jedi which is one of the things I like about Andor and even The Mandalorian isn't a heavy Jedi show even though we have seen some.

I just feel in the case of Obi-Wan it works better. That's because I feel the main point of showing him in this point of his life is to show how lonely and broken and isolated he has become. How disconnected he actually is to the bigger world going on outside. That part of his life ended when the Empire won and he and Yoda basically had to go in hiding away from the world.

The Bad Batch I think did a good job of season 1 in showing how fast things actually started to change and we saw Rebels show what the world became to look like as is Andor.
 
I just feel in the case of Obi-Wan it works better. That's because I feel the main point of showing him in this point of his life is to show how lonely and broken and isolated he has become. How disconnected he actually is to the bigger world going on outside. That part of his life ended when the Empire won and he and Yoda basically had to go in hiding away from the world.
And they do that but it can't stay that way. We know that Obi-Wan will eventually become a defender of Luke (Rebels, ANH) so he couldn't stay there. But there had to be an acknowledgement of the world changing, and Obi-Wan's reaction to it. Rather than just focusing on Obi-Wan and his struggle, the show shows how the galaxy changed because of his choices. That's reflected in his interactions with Reva, and Talia and Leia and Bail. Everything in ANH takes on a little bit different shade of meaning now.
 
I just caught up to episode 6, and wow! The first few episodes I was shaky on, having no idea the story of Andor or where it was going, but this last episode took big strides, and I loved it. This is the kind of storytelling I like, the really "human" moments where good, bad, right, wrong, justice, travesty, all of these things intertwine with people's lives, and in a setting I really love, the Star Wars universe. I could get used to this kind of Star Wars storytelling.

Also, Nemik died, and that just sucked. I liked him a lot, he was more than an empathetic, genuinely good kid, he would have been a comrade. :(

On that note, I love the shade being tossed at the empire and its relation to current events. The whole "options" monologue by Commander Jayhorn did not get by me, not that it was trying to be subtle, but I loved it.

Really, though, I can't wait to see how this turns out, and thanks to @cooleddie74 (or @GhoulEddie74 as he's known at the moment), I now know it's going to be a "real" season length, and not one of those "10 episodes is a season" seasons.
 
10 episodes is a full season in the same way Summer Vacation being cut short by four weeks because of a school board schedule change is a "full Summer for the kids."
 
Honestly, I actually prefer shorter seasons.
Same. Longer seasons become a chore. Also, rougher on production crews.
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Was that our good friend Pelleaon at the beginning there? He should know better than to stick around in a Sith controlled Empire.
It was a pretty good episode but I still want to see the this Emperor they keep talking about.
 
So far I like episodes 5 and 7 the best. I thought the scene with Mon Mothma recruiting her old friend was the best part of today's episode.

I wonder what Maarva is up to? That looked liked a weapon she picked up. I was hoping they would end the episode with her doing something extreme. Next episode maybe.
 
Good episode for the most part, plot progress on multiple character fronts, bit confused about the ending tough.

Did I miss something?
  • How did Andor end up on beach planet? (Did he just flew to "a warm sunny place" where he initially wanted to take his "Mam" and I got confused by the time jump?
  • Who is that women in the bed when he's "showering"? random stranger or someone I should be aware of?
  • Was he just in the wrong place/time to wrongly get accused and then arrested?
  • Regarding the sentencing: Was it just that the empire and it's authorities just do the f*ck what they want or was it a direct result of everything being a "class 1 offense" automatically now?
 
A nice interlude episode to take stock and reposition some key characters for what I gather will be a new arc in the next three episodes. Enjoyed the Mon Mothma scenes well enough, though I'm still a little hungry for more substance.

I have to applaud the production crew for desperately trying to make Blackpool look like a tropical resort planet (on an overcast day, no less!) :lol:

Was that our good friend Pelleaon at the beginning there? He should know better than to stick around in a Sith controlled Empire.
Nope. It was our even better friend Wullf Yularen.
Did I miss something?
  • How did Andor end up on beach planet? (Did he just flew to "a warm sunny place" where he initially wanted to take his "Mam" and I got confused by the time jump?
  • Who is that women in the bed when he's "showering"? random stranger or someone I should be aware of?
  • Was he just in the wrong place/time to wrongly get accused and then arrested?
  • Regarding the sentencing: Was it just that the empire and it's authorities just do the f*ck what they want or was it a direct result of everything being a "class 1 offense" automatically now?
  • Probably.
  • Nobody we know. Seemingly just someone he's shacking up with.
  • Basically. Welcome to life in a fascist police state!
  • Yup. Mandatory sentencing in the name of security, and for the good of all loyal Imperial citizens. Questioning the wisdom and justness of this policy is of couse also a class one offence so SHH! Keep your voice down! *public surveillance probe droid loiters in the background*
 
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Thank you @Reverend

I wonder if we get some
"Andor-less" episode(s) with focus on other characters before the time jump to the end of his 6 year sentence - basically while Andor was in jail, this and that happened
 
Can we all agree that Andor basically went to space Miami. That was the vibe I was getting from the new setting. I kind of like it. Seeing these new communities in Star Wars that's not just another hideout for space smugglers and so forth.
 
I wonder if we get some
"Andor-less" episode(s) with focus on other characters before the time jump to the end of his 6 year sentence - basically while Andor was in jail, this and that happened
I think it goes without saying that Cassian won't be spending the full six years in prison, given the show is currently less than five years before Rogue One, where he definitely was not in prison at the start of the movie.

I'd say he's likely to escape if not next week then definitely the week after when this current arc comes to a conclusion. And I doubt it's a spoiler to say he'll escape since I'm pretty sure we can all agree he won't be getting early parole for good behavior.
 
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