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Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
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From what I gathered watching the show, the life-force of the Elves, as exemplified by a magic tree, is fading from Middle-Earth, so they can no longer survive there. Mithril has healing powers that could restore the tree, and the ability of the Elves to remain alive, but the Dwarves have refused to mine a sufficient quantity, leaving just the small sample Elrond was given as a gift. Alloying the mithril with pure gold and silver allowed them to stretch their supply, and casting it into a round shape let its powers rebound upon themselves and amplify. Turning it into something wearable, like a ring or crown does... something. I don't think they specifically said, but presumably, the mithril's power needs to be focused by a living being or physically connected to an elf for its effects to spread throughout their species.
Trouble is, there's some concern the rings (or crown) wouldn't merely heal, but would let their wearer's will influence others ("not power of flesh, but power over flesh"), so Galadriel suggests in the end not making one, which would give its wearer unquestionable power, or two, where the wearers could each split Elvenkind down the middle with any dispute, but three, allowing for a balance of power where if two ring-wearers disagreed, the third could mediate (or at the very least, break the tie).
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And we know they will eventually carry their respective rings to their own little kingdom, creating Elven sanctuaries, with one of them ultimately ending up in Gandalf’s care.
I think his confrontation with the Mystics pretty much ruled out the Stranger being any form or part of Sauron, I'm sure they would have known, even if he was just a fragment.
A few more thoughts I forgot when I was writing my other post.
I'm a little shocked we didn't get an Isildur appearance at the end. I did think of one possibility for how they could kill him without breaking canon any more than they already have. They seemed to be setting up relationship between Elendil and Miriel, so what if they get together and have a son who they name after Isildur.
But having said that, I'm still convinced he's alive, Berec knew it, and that was why he took off. With the whole speech about how a horse connects with their rider, and then the way he acted when they tried to take him back to Numenor, I'm 100% convinced that he was upset because he knew Isildur was alive and didn't want to leave without him. Maybe we'll start off next season with him tracking down Isildur where he's being held captive by Adar and the Orcs.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that the thing Earien ( it's actually spelled with two dots over the a, but I don't know how to do that on my laptop) found in the king's secret chamber is a Palantir, right?
I'm really sad they killed Sadoc, he was one of my favorite characters.
Yea. It's a palantir... When Miriel showed it to Galadriel she named it as such. Miriel tells Galadriel there are 7 of them and 6 are lost or hidden.
Although there were actually far more than 7 constructed. The number 7 probably comes from the fact that 7 are taken by Elendil *TO* Middle Earth when the elf loyalists flee Numenor due to Sauron's rising influence on the King.
That's why there's a palantir in Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Isengard, etc... because Elendil brings 7 with them and puts them in strategic locations of the cities and buildings they construct.
I think he's Gandalf the Blue. He'll have a heroic sacrifice at the end of the series and its Gandalf the Grey who never goes to the East.
Nori and Ersatz Gandalf had better start interacting with the rest of the story soon or their arc is kind of pointless. I assume they're might team up with a wandering Celeborn at some stage - or they find another Blue Wizard or something.
We're meant to think the Stranger is Gandalf with all the dropped hints, but to me the evidence seems weak and more like misdirection. But he might as well be Gandalf even if he believes he is peril and does not reject being addressed as Sauron. I still think he's like transporter accident Kirk in "The Enemy Within", but I'm not totally attached to this hypothesis.
Isildur is still alive. That's why Berec was so plot conveniently keen to be off to get him. We wouldn't hear all that chatter about the specialness of Numenorean horses or the name of this particular one otherwise. He's this show's Shadowfax.
Sauron is off to Mordor to overthrow Adar and I assume Isildur will gain his freedom through the intervention of a character he believes to be Halbrand. At this point, only a few of the Eregion Elves suspect his deception and they only have Galadriel's testimony and a presumably damaged scroll.
It would be ironic if Isildur saves Halbrand's life in some way and aids him in killing Adar, who might well not seek dominion over all the peoples of Middle-earth.
We're meant to think the Stranger is Gandalf with all the dropped hints, but to me the evidence seems weak and more like misdirection. But he might as well be Gandalf even if he believes he is peril and does not reject being addressed as Sauron. I still think he's like transporter accident Kirk in "The Enemy Within", but I'm not totally attached to this hypothesis.
Isildur is still alive. That's why Berec was so plot conveniently keen to be off to get him. We wouldn't hear all that chatter about the specialness of Numenorean horses or the name of this particular one otherwise. He's this show's Shadowfax.
Sauron is off to Mordor to overthrow Adar and I assume Isildur will gain his freedom through the intervention of a character he believes to be Halbrand. At this point, only a few of the Eregion Elves suspect his deception and they only have Galadriel's testimony and a presumably damaged scroll.
It would be ironic if Isildur saves Halbrand's life in some way and aids him in killing Adar, who might well not seek dominion over all the peoples of Middle-earth.
I'm a very casual Tolkien fantasy fan;; but I remember a friend of mine who was a hardcore Tolkien fanatic who has read all his works said that Galadriel could have stopped the whole thing with Sauron if she had just given him a lock of her hair that he asked for.
IDK if that's accurate or not, but he often referred to Gladriel as: "That stuck up Elf bitch..."
I really enjoyed the first season of this series. And I was going "no way that can't be what they're going to do...", when the other three priest like people from the Stars claimed that the being who had been helping the Har-Foots was Sauron. So yes I was quite happy when it turned out he was in fact what most people probably believed him to be, an Istar/Wizard/ one of Gandalf's race.
I was also satisfied with who they revealed to be Sauron, and how they did it. It then makes sense that he was the one who gave them the idea of how to make use of the limited amount of mithril they had.
Very much looking forward to the second season of the series, and again I'm not really a big high fantasy fan; so that this series got me iso nterested in it shows that the writers do know how to weave Tolkien type stories in an interesting way for casual fans.
That's sad I'm sure many a hardcore Tolkien fan are beside themselves pulling their hair out over much of this series.
But yeah like many others have said, I found all the story threads they have interesting; and the character motivations all work, and overall the characters are far from cookie cutter which is always a good thing for me.
IIRC it was Fëanor, the creator of the Silmarils, Celebrimbor's grandfather, who wanted some of Galadriel's hair. Galadriel is probably one of the oldest Elves that we've seen so far in this series. She's Gil-galad's great-aunt and should be Elrond's mother-in-law eventually.
You are way, way to concerned with that kind of shit. Some of my all time favorite shows and movies have horrible reviews, but it doesn't effect my love for them. If you like it, that's really all that should matter to you.
Why do you go there expecting the word of god or something?
It's being reviewed bombed because they have the audacity to portray elves and hobbits with dark skin. Same old story. Same usual band of suspects.
Guys, I'm begging you to ignore crookeddy. He does this shit in every damn series thread now despite being called out on it multiple times.
Please stop feeding him.
Please stop feeding him.
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