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Spoilers Andor season one

Heist Crew
Andor
leaving the heist crew lady leader the ship, everything besides his cut and returning the blue crystal thing for their mutual "friend" was a cool move.
He's got his cut and the manifesto and the Empire is after him.
Wonder how he'll cross paths with the heist crew survivors and the blue crytsal art gallary owner again.

Maybe I remember it wrong, but his pay was 200,000 was it not? And he took only 30,000? Plus he knew that the cyber was worth 50,000.
Me things that is why Lucien will continue to trust him.
 
Maybe I remember it wrong, but his pay was 200,000 was it not? And he took only 30,000? Plus he knew that the cyber was worth 50,000.
Me things that is why Lucien will continue to trust him.
I thought he gave 30k of it to the doctor for his ship to get out of there, but took his agreed to cut.
 
Pretty good episode. Wasn’t actually expecting them to actually get the money. As soon as they said he was a Stormtrooper, I knew he was going to die. They’re useless. :)
I hope we see Sidious down the line. Without the boss getting interested, how I’m I supposed to see these people as a threat.

That's like saying, "Hmm. I like this TV show about FBI agents hunting a serial killer, but unless the President shows up, how am I supposed to take any of this seriously?"
 
Mas Amedda or Sly Moore would be enough for me. They're Palpatine's right hand people in the Imperial Senate and just one call or door away from the Emperor himself. Will we see an Ian McDiarmid cameo? Possibly. But if we don't get one we know the Emperor is still looming out there inside the former Jedi Temple or in an office building adjacent to the Senate.
 
Mas Amedda or Sly Moore would be enough for me. They're Palpatine's right hand people in the Imperial Senate and just one call or door away from the Emperor himself. Will we see an Ian McDiarmid cameo? Possibly. But if we don't get one we know the Emperor is still looming out there inside the former Jedi Temple or in an office building adjacent to the Senate.

Adjacent to the Senate? He IS the Senate.
 
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I hope we see Sidious down the line. Without the boss getting interested, how I’m I supposed to see these people as a threat.
Boy, Rogue One and A New Hope must have been the least interesting stories then...
I will need to watch that scene again. That would be very dark for Star Wars if true.
Star Wars is dark. It is very much hewing towards older style mythology and heroes who do very difficult and painful things. It is not always a light story. This cuts far closer to Lucas' ideas with the Rebels as the VC in ANH's early drafts.
 
That's like saying, "Hmm. I like this TV show about FBI agents hunting a serial killer, but unless the President shows up, how am I supposed to take any of this seriously?"

That's why 24 had to course correct and have a POTUS in every season from season 2-9, even if there was no reason for one.
 
Great episode and payoff. Stunning locations (where is that?) and just beautifully shot series, framing and everything. I keep thinking, if only Obi wan had this kind of scope.....

Have to admit, I didn't see Skeen's turn coming. For a moment there I even thought he was lying to try and draw Cassian out into a betrayal; one final loyalty test.
Thought the same thing and putting it into a real world perspective, maybe that was actually the case... Andor didn't let that play out so who can be for sure? For me it cements the character of Andor, shoot first, shoot quick, don't dwell on it.
 
Cassian just flat out executing Skeen was a nice touch and just goes to show how far down the path he's come since being rescued as a child. He's willing to do whatever it takes to get himself from one point to the next without compromising who he is.
 
Great episode and payoff. Stunning locations (where is that?)
It's Cruachan Dam.
It's kinda wild seeing people oohing and aahing over UK landscape, when it just seems normal to me. Don't get me wrong, the Scottish highlands, Cumbria, and the like are among the prettier locations on a nice day, but I've hiked along hillsides just like that and mostly remember them being cold, damp and covered in sheep shit.
Cassian just flat out executing Skeen was a nice touch and just goes to show how far down the path he's come since being rescued as a child. He's willing to do whatever it takes to get himself from one point to the next without compromising who he is.
It wasn't really a moral stance, strictly speaking. It was as much self preservation as anything.
Anyone willing to ditch people he's spent months living with for half of the 80 million credits wouldn't blink at betraying a person he just met 3 days ago for the other half, once he's gotten him where he needs to go. Cassian knew in that moment that Skeen was planning to murder him either way, and in the next moment or two if he continued to hesitate, Skeen would notice that Cassian had realised that and be forced to kill him then and there. So Cassian killed him first.

As for not taking more than his promised price: Luthen clearly has resources, the last thing Cassian needs is more heat from the likes of him on top of having the Empire on his trail. Besides, that 80M is WAY to hot to be of any use to him.
 
It wasn't really a moral stance, strictly speaking. It was as much self preservation as anything.
Anyone willing to ditch people he's spent months living with for half of the 80 million credits wouldn't blink at betraying a person he just met 3 days ago for the other half, once he's gotten him where he needs to go. Cassian knew in that moment that Skeen was planning to murder him either way, and in the next moment or two if he continued to hesitate, Skeen would notice that Cassian had realised that and be forced to kill him then and there. So Cassian killed him first.

As for not taking more than his promised price: Luthen clearly has resources, the last thing Cassian needs is more heat from the likes of him on top of having the Empire on his trail.

These points are highly debatable but also serve to gut the character development if you try to view everything simply as "Cassian's motives were mere survival." That's not the point of his actions, literally or dramatically.
 
He does whatever it takes as long as it doesn't violate who he is and what he values most. In a way he has a pre-TBOBF Boba code of honor. He'll do dodgy missions but if they make him feel as if his personal code of ethics and decency has been trampled upon he'll find a way to say No and make it stick.
 
I'm not sure he has much of a moral code beyond not actively hurting the handful of people he genuinely cares for. That's kind of the point of this arc.
We've already seen him murder a corpo sentry to give himself a running start before the heat comes down. Murder a compatriot out of a combined sense of self preservation and not wanting any further heat. And eventually we know he'll murder an informant/asset for being too crippled to escape an Imperial interrogation.
Most everything he does seems entirely pragmatic to me. So far though in the show, most of what he's doing is selfishly motivated. The turning point comes when he eventually starts doing these things in service of something greater. He's just not there yet.
 
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Most everything he does seems entirely pragmatic to me. So far though in the show, most of what he's doing is selfishly motivated. The turning point comes when he eventually starts doing these things in service of something greater. He's just not there yet.
Yup. Still waiting for that moment. He keeps feeling like a selfish dude, but I see more potential here now.
 
I'm not sure he has much of a moral code beyond not actively hurting the handful of people he genuinely cares for. That's kind of the point of this arc.
We've already seen him murder a corpo sentry to give himself a running start before the heat comes down. Murder a compatriot out of a combined sense of self preservation and not wanting any further heat. And eventually we know he'll murder an informant/asset for being too crippled to escape an Imperial interrogation.
Most everything he does seems entirely pragmatic to me. So far though in the show, most of what he's doing is selfishly motivated. The turning point comes when he eventually starts doing these things in service of something greater. He's just not there yet.

But he's moving towards that, incrementally. Not betraying the team and sneaking off with half the haul is a moral choice he makes that moves him further towards heroism.

It's not because, as you suggest, he's worried about Skeen or Luthen taking him out. He did that because it was the right thing to do. Implying otherwise misses the point.
 
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