What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

This just prompted me to check... 20 September was the 20th anniversary of Firefly, and 9 December will be the 20th anniversary of Star Trek: Nemesis.

 

Can I just say after not being in here in a week or so that I loved the love for Final Frontier, which is a fantastic character study of our three iconic leads.

 

When did I get so OLD?

 

What??? It seems like yesterday! I AM getting old too.

 

I saw TOS first run.

 

I've been alive for the entirety of the original runs of every Trek series but TOS and TAS. I was born just after the start of the second season of TAS.

 

Can't agree with that, too controversial.

 

I was born in space.

There. Close the thread.

 

That does it. You've revealed the secret. Time to burn everything down.

 

So what would the character of the Big E be like in the series?

I think uber-competent, not braggy, always comes through for you. Physically a tall, quiet woman who dresses classy like with a cloak and broach like in the old Signals catalog, like a professor.

 

Decades ago, I used to have fanficcy ideas for a sentient far-future Enterprise. For some reason, its hologram avatar was male, and Romulan. No idea where that came from.

 

Diane Duane did the Zora thing decades ago in her novels, she named the classic Enterprise's computer Moira. That's the Enterprise's personality.

 

Half the cast of every Trek minus DS9.

 

I think that's a question that will inevitably reveal more about the person answering than it does about the ship itself.

 

Ain't that the truth, especially with Beverly on TNG, Travis on ENT, Harry and Chakotay on VOY, and everyone who wasn't Kirk or McCoy or Spock on TOS.

 

1. I don't like Spock anymore. He babbles on and on about peace and logic but Vulcan is a society that fell into a rather despotic military rule government. I take it Spock is a Siranite. He seems to be a Fundamentalist Surakian. He sees himself as an Apostle to the Romulans and now SNW has turned him into another Space Jesus.
Spock advocates for demilitarizing Starfleet and this was a huge mistake. They were not prepared for the Borg or the Dominion.
I hate all the Kelvin movies. They are nothing but adolescent cartoon character nonsense.
The Federation, according to an episode in Voyager, has the ability to read the memories being imprinted on your brain. They have the ability to change them. Earth is being held together by this kind of manipulation to keep the population content while they are ruled from above. They brag about no nation states which means to me that Culture custom and tradition are now frowned on. The elites rule from the top down to the masses instead of government rising from the grass roots. It seems to be for now a benevolent Police State.

 

I'm changing my definitions of Old Trek and New Trek.

Up until recently, I thought of Old Trek as 1966-2005 and New Trek as 2009+. Now I think of Old Trek as 1966-2016 and New Trek as 2017+.

The JJ Abrams Films starring Chris Pine as Kirk aren't coming back. There's not going to be a Star Trek 4. If it hasn't happened by now, it's not going to happen. I think there'll be another Star Trek movie someday, but it'll be something else, with someone else, by someone else.

 

But the novels aren't canon, so "Moira" is irrelevant for a discussion about the Enterprise in the shows.
In canon, Zora is the first example in actual canon, unless you want to count that "puppy" A.I. from that one episode of DS9 that was forgotten about by the next episode.

 

I’ve always thought of the JJ-films as their own thing despite the presence of Classic Spock.

I tend to go with it like this, Classic Trek is TOS thru Enterprise, including the movies. Nu-Trek is Discovery thru SNW and then whatever comes after, Section 31, Starfleet Academy, Star Trek Voyager 2: We Really Love Janeway, etc…

And Alt-Trek is the Kelvin/JJ verse.

the JJ stuff is just so disconnected from everything else. And that’s not to say I dislike it. I actually think Beyond is the best of the Kelvin verse movies and better than Final Frontier, Insurrection and Nemesis.