Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series

[Greylock Crescent]

Another thought regarding what is contained in Durin III's chest - I now think it's probably Mithril ore and not a Silmaril. Celebrimbor uses Mithril to create the shining gate to Moria that we see depicted in The Fellowship of the Ring (both book and movie).

That would certainly go along with the dinner conversation we saw between Elrond, Durin and Disa. Talking about treating the mountain like a living being, listening to it reveal its secrets. Would make sense, thematically, that they had just discovered something quite precious like Mithril.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Due to the limits of the rights puchased., one thing I suspect this series cannot cover is the various races beliefs - or actual knowledge in the case of the Elves - of an afterlife. I'm not sure whether Galadriel's brother ends up going to the Halls of Mandos and is re-embodied in this TV series as he was in The Silmarillion. I assume these Dwarves don't believe in reincarnation as this Durin III is the father of another Durin.

 

[Tuskin38]

Oh, there are elements of other parts of The Planets Suite scattered about Star Wars music if one knows where to look. There are several YouTube videos on the subject.

And Star Trek, the opening of Star Trek 6.

 

[Skywalker]

I definitely think the mysterious thing in Durin's chest is mithril, and I think their end goal with the Khazad-dum storyline is to have this discovery of mithril--and their desire for more--to cause the Dwarves to "delve too greedily and too deep" and awaken Durin's Bane by the end of the show. Sure, that would be sooner than it happened in the books, but they're already compressing the events of the Second Age so there's no reason why they couldn't compress some stuff from the Third Age, too.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I definitely think the mysterious thing in Durin's chest is mithril, and I think their end goal with the Khazad-dum storyline is to have this discovery of mithril--and their desire for more--to cause the Dwarves to "delve too greedily and too deep" and awaken Durin's Bane by the end of the show. Sure, that would be sooner than it happened in the books, but they're already compressing the events of the Second Age so there's no reason why they couldn't compress some stuff from the Third Age, too.

Agreed. I'm surprised by how many people (not just here) who haven't realized what's in the chest.

And to add to your prediction, the Seven Rings will further drive their furor for mithril.

 

[Skywalker]

Agreed. I'm surprised by how many people (not just here) who haven't realized what's in the chest.

And to add to your prediction, the Five Rings will further drive their furor for mithril.

(Psst! Seven Rings!)
I whispered it so nobody else would hear.

 

[thribs]

I assumed it was the same thing that was in the Pulp Fiction suitcase.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I assumed it was the same thing that was in the Pulp Fiction suitcase.

...and the car trunk/boot in Repo Man...

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[Nerys Myk]

Is MacGuffin a dwarvish name?

 

[fireproof78]

Agreed. I'm surprised by how many people (not just here) who haven't realized what's in the chest.

I figured through watching the show that the answer would present itself.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

(Psst! Seven Rings!)
I whispered it so nobody else would hear.

D'oh!

 

[Greylock Crescent]

(Psst! Seven Rings!)
I whispered it so nobody else would hear.

Maybe the Five Rings were gifted to the race of the IOC.

Might explain a great many things.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

The audiobook, read by Martin Shaw, is pretty good if one finds the actual book a bit of a slog. I saw recently that someone has uploaded it onto YouTube.

Could never do an audiobook novel but for a book like that it's a great idea as it reads like a history text.

 

[Skywalker]

Maybe the Five Rings were gifted to the race of the IOC.

Might explain a great many things.

It's not a coincidence that Osgiliath fell into ruin after they hosted the Olympics.

 

[Reverend]

Agreed. I'm surprised by how many people (not just here) who haven't realized what's in the chest.

And to add to your prediction, the Seven Rings will further drive their furor for mithril.

Mithril was my first assumption, but given how cagey and borderline paranoid they're being about it, I question that. After all, we know the Dwarves traded mithril goods with the Elves, so while it's a precious resource it's not like it's mere existence should be a state secret.

Aside from the Silmarils, what other objects would warrant that behaviour? The only other thing that comes to mind is The Seven. IIRC Celebrimbor only personally made The Three, with the others made by elven smiths under his direction, and of course The One was forged by Sauron himself. So it's possible that for the purposes of this show that at least some of The Seven have already been forged (possibly in Numenor) and sent to Durin as "gifts".

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Mithril was my first assumption, but given how cagey and borderline paranoid they're being about it, I question that. After all, we know the Dwarves traded mithril goods with the Elves, so while it's a precious resource it's not like it's mere existence should be a state secret.

Aside from the Silmarils, what other objects would warrant that behaviour? The only other thing that comes to mind is The Seven. IIRC Celebrimbor only personally made The Three, with the others made by elven smiths under his direction, and of course The One was forged by Sauron himself. So it's possible that for the purposes of this show that at least some of The Seven have already been forged (possibly in Numenor) and sent to Durin as "gifts".

I was thinking that it will be the jewels that go into the rings.

 

[Set Harth]

I found the Ainulindalë and the Valaquenta quite a slog to read. It does get easier after that.

For me it was the opposite, when I first tried to read the book as a kid. I breezed through those chapters but got bogged down in the subsequent material.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Mithril was my first assumption, but given how cagey and borderline paranoid they're being about it, I question that. After all, we know the Dwarves traded mithril goods with the Elves, so while it's a precious resource it's not like it's mere existence should be a state secret.

Aside from the Silmarils, what other objects would warrant that behaviour? The only other thing that comes to mind is The Seven. IIRC Celebrimbor only personally made The Three, with the others made by elven smiths under his direction, and of course The One was forged by Sauron himself. So it's possible that for the purposes of this show that at least some of The Seven have already been forged (possibly in Numenor) and sent to Durin as "gifts".

That's a fair analysis. I had forgotten that Celebrimbor didn't actually forge the Seven (I don't have my copy of The Silmarillion where I'm living but a quick look up online confirms Sauron gave the rings to the Dwarves), so you might be right that the Seven could've been sent them over from Númenor if Sauron is indeed hiding in plain sight as some of us suspect.

One reason why I went with mithril and not the Seven is because of the glow. Granted we haven't seen the Seven on screen in any fashion beyond the prologue of the Jackson films, but I don't think there's been any indication that they would have such a glow, whereas dwarven unearthed treasures like mithril and the Arkenstone do.

 

[Gov Kodos]

D'oh!

Five rings, four calling birds, three French hens, two turtledoves, and a partridge to rule them all.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Five rings, four calling birds, three French hens, two turtledoves, and a partridge to rule them all.

There it is! That's why I brainfarted with that number! Yes, that's the explanation!