Aliens, hell yes, hell no, get outta here.

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Gingerbread Demon, Aug 21, 2022.

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Do you think alien life is out there beyond Earth?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2022.
  1. Hell yes

    85.7%
  2. Hell no

    4.8%
  3. Hell I can't decide

    4.8%
  4. Get outta here with your alien rubbish

    4.8%
  1. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    Oh most definitely
     
  2. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    I tend to doubt we'll ever detect alien megastructures such as Dyson spheres - swarms perhaps. As Richard Feynman wrote "there's plenty of room at the bottom" so advanced civilisations likely develop nanotechnology, find ways to convert matter into computational engines, and upload themselves to these substrates. If the engines are powered by a red dwarf, they could last for trillions of years. If the energy input declined, the engines could just run their computations at a slower rate. It does seem a lot easier than the cost and risks associated with interstellar colonisation. Of course, not every alien race is guaranteed to think that way.
     
  3. Skellington

    Skellington Part-time poltergeist Rear Admiral

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    Yes. There are probably even numerous examples within our own galaxy.

    But very few capable of contacting us. Of the more than 9 million species of animal found on earth, ours appears to be the only one to have developed radio, or abstract concepts for that matter. This suggests that planets can get along fine for billions of years without developing a society analogous to our own.
     
  4. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    If we're the first ones, who gets to be Lorien?
     
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  5. Jedi Marso

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    Given what the Hubble showed us before and what the Webb is showing us now, space is so unimaginably vast and there are so many galaxies in which life can form in the past, present, and future, that it is simply unimaginable to me that we are it.

    Whether we may ever contact (or exist in the same timeframe) another equivalent civilization is the big question. That they have been, are, or will be out there is something I am certain of to the core of my soul.
     
  6. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    Well otherwise it would be an awful waste of space.
     
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  7. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    And who becomes the Shadows and Vorlons?

    On a side note if a place like heaven is real will there be aliens there too?
     
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  8. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    If the universe/multiverse is infinite, heaven will be heavin'.
     
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  9. tavor

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    turn it around for a minute. aliens come to earth thousands of years ago looking for a intelligent lifeform here to communicate with ,what they find is dinosaurs would they hang around or move on ?
     
  10. publiusr

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    Sadly, one pioneer won't be around to see First Contact:

    Astronomer Frank Drake, who pioneered the modern search for intelligent life in the universe, passed away Friday (Sept. 2) at the age of 92.

    https://www.space.com/seti-pioneer-frank-drake-obituary

    flights of ETs sing thee to thy rest...
     
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  11. Ferengi Prime 5

    Ferengi Prime 5 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    We are zoo animals for aliens... The zoo hypothesis... Does seem to hold water... They are just waiting to pounce...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_hypothesis

    The zoo hypothesis speculates on the assumed behavior and existence of technologically advanced extraterrestrial life and the reasons they refrain from contacting Earth. It is one of many theoretical explanations for the Fermi paradox. The hypothesis states that alien life intentionally avoids communication with Earth to allow for natural evolution and sociocultural development, and avoiding interplanetary contamination, similarly to people observing animals at a zoo. The hypothesis seeks to explain the apparent absence of extraterrestrial life despite its generally accepted plausibility and hence the reasonable expectation of its existence.

    WE are just zoo animals to the Aliens...
     
  12. BillJ

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    It doesn't hold any more water than the thousands of other explanations of why we haven't found proof of intelligent life. We simply don't know.
     
  13. Haggis and tatties

    Haggis and tatties Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yes, the odds are stacked way in favour of life evolving just as it did here in this planet, now the only question that needs asking is when they do come, will it be a cook book or a close encouter of the third kind. :cardie:
     
  14. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    A dazzling light show and landing would be cool....
     
  15. Santaman

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    .. And an ARP 2500 with the side cabinets.
     
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  16. Ferengi Prime 5

    Ferengi Prime 5 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Remember, if we find another intelligent life in space does not mean there are more until we find another intelligent life. We can then assume there is many more intelligent life out in space...
     
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  17. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    We can assume a lot of things, doesn’t make any of them true.

    The proof is in the pudding.
     
  18. Gingerbread Demon

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    What if there is life in our own backyard?
    Europa might have life on it.
     
  19. BillJ

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    It would still limit our sample size to a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of the Milky Way.
     
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  20. tavor

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    if it is a cookbook i hope to give them food poisoning