24th century LAW!!!

[RobertScorpio]

Prositution. STAR TREK(s) seems to skirt this issue. From MUDDS WOMEN to whenever we visit RISA. I think prositution is legal in the 24th century. Come on...WHORE GUN? Yeah, it is spelt differently...but we all know what that idol is telling the women/men on RISA. And some of those women strutting around Risa seem to be employees, not visitors. I think a STAR TREK TV SHOW called..RISA..would be a big hit on MTV!

Can you think of any laws that are alive today that might be off the books by then? Or the other way around? Laws that are laws in the future, but are not now???

DENNY CRANE!!!

 

[Fel]

Well IDK about the Federation but one must stay off the grass on Rubicun 3 ....or else!

 

[RobertScorpio]

Well IDK about the Federation but one must stay off the grass on Rubicun 3 ....or else!

Oh crap!!! Oh..wait..I thought you meant the kind you puff on before I recalled what Episode you meant

 

[sbk1234]

The impression I got from TFF was that euthanasia is considered acceptable for a doctor. McCoy's dialogue with Sybok about not knowing if he should let dad die always seemed to me to indicate that it was his medical duty to protect the patient's right to chose life or death. At least in extreme cases. In any case, it didn't seem to hurt McCoy's career at all.

 

[Timo]

Duel to death is legal on Vulcan. Slave labor was legal on Ardana. So was torture... Oh, wait, this was supposed to be about things that are different from today, right?

Lie detectors and telepathic reading are admitted evidence in courts, and I mean during court sessions. Starship captains have the power to notarize/sanctify marriages. One can be admitted to the military without having it ascertained that one is a sentient being. Evil possession is a valid defense for manslaughter. And women can wear trousers. Or miniskirts, whichever is considered more offensive.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[RobertScorpio]

Duel to death is legal on Vulcan. Slave labor was legal on Ardana. So was torture... Oh, wait, this was supposed to be about things that are different from today, right?

Lie detectors and telepathic reading are admitted evidence in courts, and I mean during court sessions. Starship captains have the power to notarize/sanctify marriages. One can be admitted to the military without having it ascertained that one is a sentient being. Evil possession is a valid defense for manslaughter. And women can wear trousers. Or miniskirts, whichever is considered more offensive.

Timo Saloniemi

Loved it TIMO. It would be safe to say, I guess, that pretty much anything can go in the future. Except for murder, unless your a wandering space probe or a woman's mind put inside of Shatner's body

Rob

 

[raleighrob]

Slave labor was legal on Ardana.

Well, what I got from that episode was, they were trying to hide it, and pretend it wasn't an issue. And when Kirk uncovers it, I think it's safe to say that if Ardana didn't fix that situation, the UFP would've kicked them out!

As far as prostitution goes...was there ever a Risa episode where someone actually PAID for sex? It always appeared to me that the Risans just loved to give it away freely!

 

[Penta]

The impression I got from TFF was that euthanasia is considered acceptable for a doctor. McCoy's dialogue with Sybok about not knowing if he should let dad die always seemed to me to indicate that it was his medical duty to protect the patient's right to chose life or death. At least in extreme cases. In any case, it didn't seem to hurt McCoy's career at all.

I can almost hear my ethics prof crying that nobody here has heard of the doctrine of double effect.

 

[Timo]

Perhaps even more relevantly to the thread title, we should remember that law is never about doing the right thing. Laws exist to coerce us to do what we consider the wrong thing - we would do what we consider right automatically anyway.

So if we feel that prostitution is right, but somebody else in a position of power feels it is not, we get a law to tell us that we can't have what is right. The law carries the consequence of sanctions, and we then weigh the sanctions against the benefits of carrying out the right thing.

The laws of the future would depend on what the people of the time who follow the laws consider the right thing - not just on what the lawmakers consider the wrong thing. If people don't see personal advantage in robbery-murder any more, there need not be a law that tells them to shirk away from this right thing under pain of sanctions.

We might thus see many former laws disappear, and then some perverse individuals exploit the loopholes in law in Trek episodes anyway. Picard was truly shocked and disgusted that the trilithium thieves in "Starship Mine" would be working for profit; Federation law might not even cover such a possibility any more. (And yeah, I know it's just Trek's way of mirroring the original Die Hard storyline where seeming idealist terrorists surprisingly turn out to be ordinary thieves - but Picard's, or Stewart's, reaction carries it beyond that.)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Sci]

Prositution. STAR TREK(s) seems to skirt this issue. From MUDDS WOMEN to whenever we visit RISA. I think prositution is legal in the 24th century. Come on...WHORE GUN? Yeah, it is spelt differently...but we all know what that idol is telling the women/men on RISA. And some of those women strutting around Risa seem to be employees, not visitors. I think a STAR TREK TV SHOW called..RISA..would be a big hit on MTV!

Can you think of any laws that are alive today that might be off the books by then? Or the other way around? Laws that are laws in the future, but are not now???

DENNY CRANE!!!

If the Federation is half as civilized and enlightened as it claims to be, consensual prostitution would be legal and regulated so as to prevent abuse, and the only crime that people like Ashely Dupre and Eliot Spitzer would be guilty of would be tax evasion. (Which, of course, raises the question of whether or not the Federation has taxes...)

 

[Penta]

It may be a Utopia, but it ain't heaven.:P

 

[Sephiroth]

A.WEED, WOMEN and WEAPONS

Q. what 3 things willbe legal to purchase in the 24th

 

[raleighrob]

Why would there be a need for prostitution anyways? No one in the UFP is economicaly desperate enough to do it....and if you're sexually desperate, then just go into a holosuite!
Prostitution has always been something that depended heavily on suppy & demand...and I can't see the 24th century UFP having either!

 

[RobertScorpio]

Why would there be a need for prostitution anyways? No one in the UFP is economicaly desperate enough to do it....and if you're sexually desperate, then just go into a holosuite!
Prostitution has always been something that depended heavily on suppy & demand...and I can't see the 24th century UFP having either!

How do you explain Risa then? Though it is subtle, there is some kind of 'sexual' draw of that planet, whore'gun not withstanding.

Rob

 

[raleighrob]

How do you explain Risa then? Though it is subtle, there is some kind of 'sexual' draw of that planet, whore'gun not withstanding.
Rob

Again, I can't for the life of me ever remember seeing anyone actually PAY for it. The Risans pretty much loved just giving it away. I think the whole Horgon + sex ritual was a cultural thing. And the tourists just ate it up! (No pun intended. )

Edit: Memory-alpha agrees: "Risa is most noted for the frank and open sexuality of its native population. Identified by a decorative emblem on their foreheads between the eyes, Risians often initiate or respond to the desire for sexual relations through the use of a small statuette called a horga'hn the Risian symbol of sexuality or fertility. Display of a horga'hn announces that the owner wishes to participate in jamaharon, a Risan sexual rite."