Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
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He speculates regarding meteor man's identity, whether a climactic First Age event will be seen and what Tar-Miriel is reacting to; also enthuses about Moria and about Elrond's pronunciation of "Galadriel"; expresses reservations about the shot of Ar-Pharazon addressing a crowd. Good stuff.
I'm assuming that means that all the sex will be obscured enough to not be quite as in your face as GOT, although I'll admit I don't know quite what separates TV14 from TVMA when it comes to that kind of content (can TV14 show nudity, for example?).
I'm still not going to watch it. There should be absolutely zero sexual content in a fucking LOTR related property, if Tolkien wanted a lewd universe he'd have actually had any kind of mention of sex in the source material, which he didn't, this is just GOT infecting other shows with its shitty style. The trailer was crap anyway, and the fact that they're not going to film in New Zealand for later seasons (they'll spend billions on the property but don't want to fairly pay people in the country that gave LOTR its iconic live action look) means it will probably look even worse as it goes. The action specifically reminds me of the worst parts of The Hobbit trilogy, which makes sense.
Its name will give it a lot of success by itself, but I really hope that Amazon loses money on it, although it feels like they spent so much money on it (even if it doesn't translate to actually looking good) that it will somehow be successful just from enough random people watching it regardless of quality.
Having sex is not lewd.
To give you a reference point, the MCU shows on Disney+ are TV-14, while The Boys and the Netflix MCU shows are TV-MA. I think TV-14 shows might be able to show asses, but I'm not sure. Pretty much every show I can think of that even showed that much was TV-MA.
We still don't even know how much sex is actually going to be in the show. For all we know this could be a quick five second flash of barely visible stuff happening in the dark.
So just because you don't like the prerelease material that has been so far, you want to see the whole thing fail? I can't agree with that at all, even when I don't like something, I still want to see it succeed for the sake of the people who worked on it, and the people who do enjoy it. The only time I want to see something like this fail, is if there is something bad about the productions itself, like if they were mistreating people, or animals, or something like that.
Come on, guys. We've been down this path dozens of times. Don't even bother.
A project you'll what?
But, I'm looking forward to it. I don't know why folks are worried what they'll do to Tolkien's 2nd age. Jackson took so many liberties with LotR and the Hobbit that such fears about this new project sound ridiculous. The further off the story from the books they go, the less I concern myself with the idea these are anything but someone's fanfiction because fanfic is all these are. Better fanfic than you'll find online but the only canon writer is JRR himself. Everyone else is doing their own thing.
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...supposed to say "wishing a project ill. "
Oh yeah, I forgot who I was replying to when I posted that.
More on topic I don't understand the obsession with canon. I love Tolkien and his works but I won't claim they are the only way a story can be told. As with many other properties I welcome expansion not contraction. Holy writ this is not.
I'm embarrassed how many times I've done something like time's with noun's.Foiled by autocorrect
Indeed, in fact sometimes a translation from book to film necessitates changes.
And more than that it requires the effort to make a living, breathing, world, and history and culture and relationship. As loathed as I am to admit it sex and sexuality are a part of the human experience and can be a part of human relationship. Ignoring it runs the risk of creating a world that is not quite fully realistic. And I saw that from personal experience as it was one of the biggest critiques that my wife found in writing her first novel.
It's one of those things that people are avoidant of and create a slightly less believable world, if only slightly.
I believe each channel basically rates their own shows so it can vary some from platform to platform though generally it would generally be fairly tame or fleeting.
Cheerleading for childish accusations, though...that is okay?
This is correct. There is no central ratings board that TV content producers submit their stuff to, equivalent to the MPA (formerly MPAA) with feature films. Each channel/platform/whatever is responsible for assigning ratings to their content. So occasionally you will see the exact same show or movie get different ratings on different platforms. And TV-14 on cable and streaming has tended to have a little more leeway than TV-14 on over-the-air broadcast networks.
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^ argh, just noticed I used generally twice there
Just as a note I've seen sometimes too where it seems content has sometimes been marked TV-MA that didn't really warrant it which I presume is because the broadcaster just didn't want to deal with it and it was easier.
Just as a note I've seen sometimes too where it seems content has sometimes been marked TV-MA that didn't really warrant it which I presume is because the broadcaster just didn't want to deal with it and it was easier.
Exactly. There's a reason why The Silmarillion is so weird, it's because it's not a coherent novel, but instead closer to a collection of old tales and songs, the kind which are mostly transcribed from second or third hand oral traditions and archaic translations. They're A version of a mythology, one who's tone is appropriate to it's metafictional source material.
Having an adaptation stray from certain details, omit others, or simply make some of these characters act like actual people instead of characters reciting epic verse, are all totally valid choices.
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I agree, and disagree with this. I enjoyed the language used in LotR (e.g., ere, thither and hither), because it was actually like the ancient Anglo-Saxon and Norse epics. The language should be coherent, but not too colloquialized. Like, Frodo shouldn't respond to Gandalf's proposition of the quest, with: "No cap? Bet, bro." or something of the sort.
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