They can, but they if want to be successful they need to do it in a way that will still meet modern audiences expectations.
Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
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Nor should they. I'm cautiously optimistic on this series and the use of sex and sexuality will be an aspect that will be under intense scrutiny. Not for it's inclusion, since any society will have attitudes regarding the subject and it's expression. How it's used in the story is more my interest.
Yeah, I don't mind sex and nudity in stuff I watch as long as it's done well and makes sense for the story. But it does start to get a bit annoying when it's shoved in there for no reason. The constant overuse of sex and nudity that really served no purpose to the story was a big part of why gave up on Game of Thrones.
OK, thanks.
I don't think I'd got that far, but you still want to at least make a show that enough people are going to want to watch for it to be successful. You can't just appeal to Tolkien fans, you need to get people who've never read a single word he wrote to watch the show too.
Ok, I missed the intimacy consultant thing. Game of Thrones really has ruined Fantasy on TV, hasn't it? Can't make a fantasy series without nudity and sex anymore, even though LOTR even in the books is basically completely sexless. I wonder if it will beat GOT's rape per episode ratio 
I was only going to watch the show out of morbid curiosity, but I don't watch GOT style stuff, so I won't be wasting time on this show.
Its sad to see how little the Tolkien estate gives a shit about LOTR, the second Tolkien's son is dead it sells out completely. Its a good thing that the Chronicles of Narnia is almost exclusively about children, otherwise I'd shudder to think what would become of future adaptations of it at this point.
I was only going to watch the show out of morbid curiosity, but I don't watch GOT style stuff, so I won't be wasting time on this show.Its sad to see how little the Tolkien estate gives a shit about LOTR, the second Tolkien's son is dead it sells out completely. Its a good thing that the Chronicles of Narnia is almost exclusively about children, otherwise I'd shudder to think what would become of future adaptations of it at this point.
I understand that adaptations - to a certain extent - are designed to bring in the uninitiated, but...T&A as standard issue, though? It this a money (i.e. production) thing or a contemporary (televised?) fantasy thing?
Ok, I missed the intimacy consultant thing. Game of Thrones really has ruined Fantasy on TV, hasn't it? Can't make a fantasy series without nudity and sex anymore, even though LOTR even in the books is basically completely sexless. I wonder if it will beat GOT's rape per episode ratio
I'm not ready to write off this attempt just yet; if nothing else, it'll probably have decent set design...eye candy aplenty. However, I am tired of holding my breath every time a live-action adaptation is announced. There is another literary franchise that I am solidly invested in that was given the silver screen treatment a few years back and *it* ended up being way off the mark; my tolerance for quote un quote "creative liberties" diminishes every year.
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Fantasy shows are now forever linked with sex, and you also need jokes. Lots of jokes. Though GOT didn't go too hard on that aspect.
I don't have time to find the interview, but didn't one of the producers say that the show will still be somewhat family-friendly?
Same here.
Exactly.
And let's be clear-sex has been a part of the fantasy genre for a long time. The idea that Lord of the Rings should be spared it because Tolkien never explicitly wrote it is, well, fanciful. I get that people want an adaptation that strives towards faithfulness, but there is also the simple reality that cultures will have sex and sexual attitudes. Those things actually inform a huge part of current cultures and how people interact, from standards of beauty to unconscious attitudes of what makes some things OK and not OK.
The reality is that modern drama has carved out an effort to approach relationships with an actual real life sensibility, including romance, fights and conflict within the relationship. This includes sex and sexuality and ignoring it and treating it like it does not exist is actually a quite way to alter suspension of disbelief.
Now, to be blunt, do I like this? Not really, because I think sex is a very private thing. But, that would be ignorant of how people actually engage in relationship and how they treat media.
Cleaver, Addams or Manson?
No, I'm not saying you have to have sex and nudity in a show for it to be successful, all I meant is that the show is going be made according to modern sensibilities, which include sex and nudity for streaming shows going for an adult audience.
And sex and nudity don't automatically mean it's going to be Game of Thrones, at this point for all we know it could be on 20 second scene in one episode with a quick flash of half a butt cheek or a little bit of side boob.
Some people seem to be afraid of their own erections.
More discomfort and a lack of meeting expectations of a given property. That's far more common in adaptation.
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