Spoilers The pointy eared elephant in the room

[C.E. Evans]

On a universal scale, I wonder who was the ‘Adam’ and who was the ‘eve’ of the universe? Also, which planet or dimension were they from? I don’t mean who seeded the genesis of life on individual planets. I’m thinking bigger than this. The ‘spark’ of life in the entire cosmos.

I think the answer is "42."

 

[Nerys Myk]

On a universal scale, I wonder who was the ‘Adam’ and who was the ‘eve’ of the universe? Also, which planet or dimension were they from? I don’t mean who seeded the genesis of life on individual planets. I’m thinking bigger than this. The ‘spark’ of life in the entire cosmos.

It was an accident.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What does that means she knows? We know subspace radio is a thing and that communication could be possible that way.

Romulans were big into radio. They negotiated entire treaties over the radio.

 

[fireproof78]

Romulans were big into radio. They negotiated entire treaties over the radio.

As well as several dramas.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As well as several dramas.

And comedy. "F'Bber M'Gee and M'Lly" was very popular.

 

[DaveyNY]

Now in the VOY episode "Death Wish," the Q known as Quinn accidentally started a war between the Vulcans and the Romulans in the late 21st-Century or so that lasted for about a hundred years. But the ENT episode "Minefield" implied that the Vulcans had only limited contact with the Romulans prior to the 22nd-Century.

So somebody's lying...

The Continuum probably fixed it after locking that particular "Q" away.

 

[bdub76]

What I don't get is why the rebooted series really love them.

 

[UssGlenn]

T'Pol knows enough to correct Hoshi when she mispronounced "Romulan" as "Romalun".

I always thought that gag should have been reversed. They are actually called Romaluns but humans keep saying Romulan, and it sticks.

 

[fireproof78]

What I don't get is why the rebooted series really love them.

Romulans deserve more love. They've never gotten enough.

 

[bdub76]

Romulans deserve more love. They've never gotten enough.

Now, they've become the new Klingons, where they were everywhere in TNG and DS9.

 

[fireproof78]

Now, they've become the new Klingons, where they were everywhere in TNG and DS9.

Good start.

 

[Kai-Winn Scenario]

Maybe this is different, but if I remember Insurrection correctly, didn't the Ba'ku just completely lose track of their own children? So it doesn't seem that far fetched that the Vulcans lost track of the Romulans after ten generations.

 

[TRON JA307020]

It’s not like they could know they called themselves Romulans. They probably knew some Vulcans left, even if on the level of it fading into vague legends. But how are they supposed to know they were successful and developed an entirely different society? They likely assumed the Romulans were just another of countless species that aren’t related to them.

Exactly. Spock had no idea the name Romulan had anything to do with vulcans at that point. In bot Spock realized upon seeing the Romulans that they were related to Vulcans.

 

[mithril]

I wonder if maybe all of Star Trek's humanoid species are offshoots of a single ancient species and they have all evolved in their separate ways. If a Human and a Vulcan can mate and produce viable offspring, that's the definition of the same species, right?

you mean the ancient humanoids who seeded and directed life to generate humanoid forms?

though in the vulcanoids it could be that they are descendants of an older species. Spock speculates such after encountering Sargon, saying that the claims Sargon was making about his people having settled across most of the local stellar area in ancient times would explain elements of vulcan pre-history.

though my own suspicion is that some proto-vulcans like the Mintakans were descendants of the exiles that would become the romulans, the way that the Debrune were claimed to be the ancestors of the romulans. either one of their colony ships crashed and the survivors regressed, or the exile's fleet stopped for awhile for repairs and resupply and some of the people decided to stay.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Of course, that was all explored in the TNG episode, "The Chase". It's one of the biggest dropped threads in Trek ever. They really should've canonized that and followed-up on that episode.

Well the problem is the Chase is horrifically bad science made up to justify a television convenience.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well the problem is the Chase is horrifically bad science made up to justify a television convenience.

So, you're say it's Star Trek?

 

[Mudd]

Of course, that was all explored in the TNG episode, "The Chase". It's one of the biggest dropped threads in Trek ever. They really should've canonized that and followed-up on that episode.

Nope. It was a silly idea that didn't answer half as many questions as it raised.

 

[The Wormhole]

What I don't get is why the rebooted series really love them.

Now, they've become the new Klingons, where they were everywhere in TNG and DS9.

Romulans are "everywhere" now and the new shows "really love them"? How so? Granted, Romulans are prominent on Picard, but otherwise, they've been featured in two episodes of Disco, and one episode each of Lower Decks and SNW and Warbirds are featured in the opening credits of Lower Decks. I'm not sure how that counts as "everywhere" or that the current shows are "in love with them."

 

[indranee]

They had no reason to think otherwise. "Those are Romulans. Obviously, based only on the name we know they must be related to us!"

I really wish the whole "Romulan" thing is done away with at some point and "Rihansu" comes into effect. Just a pet peeve I guess.

 

[bdub76]

Romulans are "everywhere" now and the new shows "really love them"? How so? Granted, Romulans are prominent on Picard, but otherwise, they've been featured in two episodes of Disco, and one episode each of Lower Decks and SNW and Warbirds are featured in the opening credits of Lower Decks. I'm not sure how that counts as "everywhere" or that the current shows are "in love with them."

Go back to TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT and count how often they appeared. They're a whole lot more front and center than in the past.